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  • DannyMan2006
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    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
    Ibe needs game time, young talented but inconsistent and that bit raw. He needs to develop & seems to have a good relationship with Klopp but it'll be interesting to see how often he is used. It would be great if he could get more game time, as we are sorely lacking pace and width going forward & sitting on the bench will do him or us no favours.
    Ibe isn't consistent enough to start every game, but he offers something different and he's a great player to have in reserve to play in the cups. Young lads go up & down and you have to know when to play & when to take them out. I think Klopp is doing the right thing with regards Ibe & Origi.

    When they come off the bench & perform he rewards them with game time, when they're a bit off key he takes them away from the limelight & the pressure. People should see Ibe as a reserve as opposed to a first team regular, which ideally should be the position all our youngsters adopt.

    That way we don't need to play them when they're clearly out of their depth, which was the unfortunate circumstance with Origi when Klopp first came in.

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  • Abro100
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    I think there has been a few factors in the recent down turn of Ibe.
    As a team we haven't been playing well and he has been highlighted because of how explosive he came on the scene. He was playing well with Sterling, Suarez and sturridge and had a good understanding with them, recently he was playing with different players and no real goal threat so that must of made him think 'what do I do?'. Plus as he was seen as a threat it was easy to double up on him as marking Origi and other sub par performers (at the time) was not necessary. When he came on the scene suarez sturridge and sterling took all the attention and markers off him and he shone. Now its harder for him as he is now seen as one of our threats.

    This in turn I think effected his confidence and made him make bad decisions or hold back. Obviously as other players play well and the threat is spread more across the team or the system however you want to look at it thr better individuals will perform.

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  • Assassin
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    Providing Ibe keeps working hard he will get lots of game time. Klopp really rates him.....

    Klopp has frequent meetings with his squad before and after matches but there has not been the opportunity to have individual meetings

    ‘I don’t have time the time yet,’ said Klopp. ‘There are so many other things! Until now, I didn’t speak to all players one on one. I have spoken to some of them, yes. Jordon was one of them, for sure.

    'It is always the same when a new manager comes in. The situation is normal. Another person is in and the judgements of the past don’t matter. That is not the only thing. The players have to use this situation.

    'But it was not in my office. We don’t have the time. It was on the pitch. There we can talk. You know Jordon is a very skilled guy.

    'He is not too bad! It’s not my work that he is the player he is in this moment. But he needs our help and we need him. That is the truth. With his speed, he is very different to most of the players I know. Now he has scored a fantastic goal.'


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  • SB
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    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
    Ibe needs game time, young talented but inconsistent and that bit raw. He needs to develop & seems to have a good relationship with Klopp but it'll be interesting to see how often he is used. It would be great if he could get more game time, as we are sorely lacking pace and width going forward & sitting on the bench will do him or us no favours.
    Stop beating around the bush Dan. Just say it & Kop the flack as your on your own with wanting to send Ibe out on loan.

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  • Corndog
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    Yea I don't get the impatience. He's 19. You are well ahead of the curve of you are a regular bench player at that age.

    Imo he can have another two seasons here as a sub/ occasional starter. Few players come back and are immediate starters all the time. If he was 25 or 26 it'd be a different story.

    Every squad has its stars, virtual undroppables like coutinho but every good squad also has players like ibe who can come into the team when needed or offer something different from the bench. No shame in such a role at this age. We became very reliant on sterling at such a young age but that's so rare and if we had to do the same with ibe it would really be a sign of a weak squad, which I don't believe LFC has.

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  • RichC
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    He has and is getting game time though.

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  • danperkins
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    Ibe needs game time, young talented but inconsistent and that bit raw. He needs to develop & seems to have a good relationship with Klopp but it'll be interesting to see how often he is used. It would be great if he could get more game time, as we are sorely lacking pace and width going forward & sitting on the bench will do him or us no favours.

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  • McDermotX
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    The very same.............though Martin Tyler is already polishing his knob at the thought of Martial winning this "prestigious" award.


    Some of the other nominees for the prize which rewards promising young players are Liverpool youngster Jordon Ibe, Tottenham’s Dele Alli, Arsenal’s Hector Bellerin and Manchester United’s duo of Anthony Martial and Luke Shaw.

    All nominees are usually under 21 years and must be playing in the top tier of a European league.

    The nominees by leagues they play in:

    Nathan Ake (Watford; on loan from Chelsea), Dele Alli (Tottenham), Héctor Bellerín (Arsenal), Jordon Ibe (Liverpool), Kelechi Iheanacho (Manchester City), Ruben Loftus-Cheek (Chelsea), Anthony Martial (Manchester United), Divock Origi (Liverpool), Luke Shaw (Manchester United), Adama Traoré (Aston Villa).

    La Liga:
    Marco Asensio (Espanyol), Zakaria Bakkali (Valencia), Ángel Correa (Atlético Madrid), Danilo Barbosa (Valencia), Munir El Haddadi (Barcelona), Alen Halilovic (Barcelona), Sandro Ramírez (Barcelona),

    Bundesliga:
    Kingsley Coman (Bayern Munich), Dahoud Mahmoud (Borussia M’gladbach), Francisco Rodríguez (Wolsfburg), Pierre-Emile Hojberg (Schalke), Adnan Januzaj (Borussia Dortmund; on loan from Manchester United), Max Meyer (Schalke),

    Serie A:
    Ricardo Kishna (Lazio), Sergej Milinkovic-Savic (Lazio), Alessio Romagnoli (Milan)

    Ligue 1:
    Mario Pasalic (Monaco; on loan from Chelsea), Adrien Rabiot (PSG), Adama Traoré (Monaco)

    Turkish Super Lig:

    Jason Denayer (Galatasaray; on loan from Manchester City)

    Dutch Eredivise: Anwar El Ghazi (Ajax Amsterdam), Gaston Pereiro (PSV), Tonny Vilhena (Feyenoord)

    Portuguese Primeira Liga:
    Goncalo Guedes (Benfica), Ruben Neves (Porto)

    Kazakhstan Premier League:

    Nemanja Maksimovic (Astana)

    Croatian Prva Liga:

    Marko Pajca (Dinamo Zagreb)

    Belgian Jupiler Pro league:

    Moses Simon (KAA Gent), Youri Tielemans (Anderlecht)

    Serbian SuperLiga:

    Andrija Zivkovic (Partizan Belgrade)

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  • Fosterbloke
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    Origi??

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  • McDermotX
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    Liverpool duo Jordon Ibe and Divock Origi have been named on the 40-man shortlist for this year’s Golden Boy award.

    The award, won most recently by Raheem Sterling in 2014, is voted for by journalists across the continent to determine Europe’s best young player aged under 21.

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  • SB
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    Originally posted by redmike65 View Post
    Well we know know what Rodgers is doing!
    And it would explain why Sakho didn't make the team of the week too

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  • redmike65
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    Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
    As it's 3 at the back he might have to play a wingback role
    Well we know know what Rodgers is doing!

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  • Bender
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    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
    Lad has all the tools just lacking confidence and experience, would like to see him loaned out to get regular football.

    Well either that or he improves quickly in the short term and becomes a regular first teamer like Sterling
    tbh dan he has the talent and the manager to help him become a top player

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  • DannyMan2006
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    Ibe played well, but he needs to do that every week. When he does we will have a real player on our hands.

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  • Exiled_red
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    Originally posted by redmike65 View Post
    Ibe is in the UEFA team of the week - rather awkwardly shoehorned into a traditional winger role though.

    As it's 3 at the back he might have to play a wingback role

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