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    Originally posted by Chazza View Post
    Not when they pick a man who they back.

    Everyone will be losing their **** when he is still in charge next week.
    He could go although I suspect he won't.

    Regardless of who's in charge I'll be fully backing them come the start of the season

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      Originally posted by Chazza View Post
      They won't sack him.

      He is their man and they will stick with him but he will need a good start to the season.
      I totally agree too.. Rodgers is the manager they picked and he'll be given what we call a second chance to prove that their judgement in selecting him was the right one..

      Keeping him on will be a massive gamble on FSG's part in my opinion, because he was a major contributor to our failings last season, both on and off the field; but, one thing is for sure he'll have nowhere to hide in the coming season. He'll have to demonstrate he is more than capable both on an off the pitch. If he has a bad start he'll could well be gone before Christmas.

      I have serious doubt about giving Brendan another season, especially when there could be a manger like Jurgen Klopp available, who would no doubt be a serious step up in terms of experience and whom IMO would be a better fit to lead the club..

      Surely before taking the gamble on Brendan for next season the powers that be Liverpool FC must sound out anyone they feel could possibly be an alternative, just in case!

      I like Brendan Rodgers as a coach but the Liverpool seat came a few years to early in his career, and last seasons showed that huge gap in his experience.. He'd be a great manager for clubs with lesser ambition - but he is way out of his depth currently at a club like Liverpool.

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        You say he's way out of his depth but he did bring the title closer than anyone else in 25 odd years. Last season was poor no doubt but the rewriting of history on here is ludicrous, of course we know he had nothing to do with it and it was all Suarez

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          Originally posted by RichC View Post
          You say he's way out of his depth but he did bring the title closer than anyone else in 25 odd years. Last season was poor no doubt but the rewriting of history on here is ludicrous, of course we know he had nothing to do with it and it was all Suarez


          It is interesting to hear Suarez saying how much Rodgers improved him and set the team up to get the best out of him.
          "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
          -- William Blake

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            Originally posted by dww View Post


            It is interesting to hear Suarez saying how much Rodgers improved him and set the team up to get the best out of him.
            If we're going to credit him for Suarez last season, he can take the credit for our attack this season, and our midfield, and our defence.

            He'll probably stay. Why change for a manager who's proven himself to be a winner when you can stay with one who's managed Reading and Swansea and won feck all. Actually, it just reflects our whole transfer policy, why pay for the best when you can invest in potential!
            Last edited by tanner; 31-05-15, 09:50 AM.
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              Originally posted by tanner View Post
              If we're going to credit him for Suarez last season, he can take the credit for our attack this season, and our midfield, and our defence.
              Well, yeah, that's kinda the point.

              Rodgers takes the credit for last season and the criticism for this.

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                Originally posted by tanner View Post
                If we're going to credit him for Suarez last season, he can take the credit for our attack this season, and our midfield, and our defence.

                He'll probably stay. Why change for a manager who's proven himself to be a winner when you can stay with one who's managed Reading and Swansea and won feck all. Actually, it just reflects our whole transfer policy, why pay for the best when you can invest in potential!
                I just don't think that anyone is arguing that he shouldn't. I don't see a single person on the forum who doesn't have some questions about Rodgers. However, to deny him credit for those things that have gone well on his watch when people involved give it to him seems perverse.

                I kind of feel that the 'proven alternatives' argument is also flawed for most cases. I think other than Klopp there is little evidence that the other managers mentioned have built a club in any way or been able to maximize smaller resources. I do think we should seriously consider whether Klopp would be better. Rodgers has a lot of questions to answer.
                "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                -- William Blake

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                  Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                  Well, yeah, that's kinda the point.

                  Rodgers takes the credit for last season and the criticism for this.
                  So we have two poor ones and one good one. I've lost any confidence in the man I had, which wasn't a lot, but we really seem to have taken 2 steps back this season.

                  I still maintain that most of us would say we need pretty much a new spine to the side, with a couple of world class additions elsewhere. 3 years in with the money we've spent and that's unacceptable.
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                    Originally posted by dww View Post
                    I just don't think that anyone is arguing that he shouldn't. I don't see a single person on the forum who doesn't have some questions about Rodgers. However, to deny him credit for those things that have gone well on his watch when people involved give it to him seems perverse.

                    I kind of feel that the 'proven alternatives' argument is also flawed for most cases. I think other than Klopp there is little evidence that the other managers mentioned have built a club in any way or been able to maximize smaller resources. I do think we should seriously consider whether Klopp would be better. Rodgers has a lot of questions to answer.
                    Its Klopp in particular that I'm referring to. The other factor is his pulling power for top players. We're a club struggling to find any success, and we're living on past glories. We need all the help we can get to bring in the best players available and I just don't think he's got the respect in the game to do that.
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                      we couldnt defend when we came second either

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                        I think Kenny walked in to this meeting in a similar (perhaps better) position, with a trophy and cup final under his belt. Our capitulation has harmed the club, and despite 'last season' we have gone backwards with little plan on or off the pitch. The sheer level of capitulation give Brendan very little leverage. Little things, like the fact the squad had literally packed their bags for a holiday before the game don't read well, as a manager he should not be allowing this. The lack of fight. The last few months were as poor as anything I can ever remember, some fairly shocking defeats, all when we had 4th place within our sights. The loss to Villa, which as Arsenal showed yesterday is totally inexcusable.

                        OK, he is an FSG ratified appointment, but they have clearly shown with the Red Sox that they do not shy away from a difficult decision, change or sacking a manager who has in the past delivered.

                        For these reasons, no matter what straws the press clutch at, I think Brendan will be fired.
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                          For me personally one of the main reasons I want him out is his part in recruitment. We have Barrett telling us it's Rodgers pushing for Benteke and he has also told us it was Rodgers who wanted Lovren, Lallana, Lambert too. He can't spot a player and that's a big problem. He apparently wanted Williams too but thankfully somebody at the club saw sense but those same people felt Lovren was an acceptable alternative. The whole thing needs changing and he's part of that.

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                            I don't think FSG know if Rodgers is to be fired yet.

                            For those looking at the similarities to the end of Dalglish's tenure, I think it's a bit premature. Dalglish knew he was off as they climbed the steps of Wembley at the end of the FA Cup final and got blanked by Henry. Contrast with Rodgers's 150% claim, I think he's been given certain reassurances but nothing concrete.

                            Or, we could be signing Benteke and Clyne for Klopp's 4-2-3-1.

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                              Echo are definitely changing their stance.

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                                Originally posted by G View Post
                                For me personally one of the main reasons I want him out is his part in recruitment. We have Barrett telling us it's Rodgers pushing for Benteke and he has also told us it was Rodgers who wanted Lovren, Lallana, Lambert too. He can't spot a player and that's a big problem. He apparently wanted Williams too but thankfully somebody at the club saw sense but those same people felt Lovren was an acceptable alternative. The whole thing needs changing and he's part of that.
                                It's one of many reasons. Not getting anything out of our available forwards or finding a system that suits over 38 games is inexcusable as well. There is more talent there than we eked out of them last season, and given Sturridges injury history having a plan B was a must. We didn't ever nail down our plan A. It took us about 3 months for a realisation that the system was failing, we found the back 3, with Can until teams worked out he wasn't an effective CB.

                                The Lovren transfer is an embarrassment to scouting though. I'd love to see the results of the games he featured in last season, he was certain,y conspicuous by his absenvce when we won a few games.
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