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    I wonder if Rafa had stayed, would Torres still be here?
    *Except Michael, who died.

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      Torres, Gerrard, Carra, Masch, Alonso all excelled under Rafa, no doubting the mans abilities.
      Brandt - Keita - Van Dijk - Sessegnon

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        That Torres statement shows what a load of old bollocks the perception of him being a bad man manager is. When he had to man manage, he clearly did. Torres isn't the only one to talk about him like this either.

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          Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
          That Torres statement shows what a load of old bollocks the perception of him being a bad man manager is. When he had to man manage, he clearly did. Torres isn't the only one to talk about him like this either.
          Course it was.
          Are we winning?

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            Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
            That Torres statement shows what a load of old bollocks the perception of him being a bad man manager is. When he had to man manage, he clearly did. Torres isn't the only one to talk about him like this either.
            Yeah I never understood that either, he was supposedly cold, distant etc but thats the complete opposite of his personality and in training pics, new signing press conferences he was always having a laugh and a joke, he's good with people. I dont think you win what he's done without being able to man manage.

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              Rafa has been the only one who knew how to help me improve.
              AVB will like that.

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                Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                AVB will like that.
                Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                  I love that Torres quote. ****, I love Rafa He's a proper Rolls Royce of a manager, and when he had players to match his ability (08-09) we ****ing nailed it. Sigh
                  Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge

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                    Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
                    That Torres statement shows what a load of old bollocks the perception of him being a bad man manager is. When he had to man manage, he clearly did. Torres isn't the only one to talk about him like this either.
                    Absolutely. It also is a reflection of the lack of critical thinking and actual reporting in the British tabloid like sports media. Stereotype a person then stick it even though there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

                    Rafa could be cold at times but at the same time he knew how to manage committed professionals. When Rafa does not praise a person, it is because he is cold. When Ferguson does not, it is because of the famous hairdryer bollocks.

                    Every characteristic of Rafa is the exact opposite of what is reported in the press - charming, intelligent, witty, passionate, caring, emotional (support for HJC) and watch him interact with the LFC fans - he is a total fun character to have around.

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                      Torres was one of the most often named players when people talk about the idea that Rafa 'lost' the dressing room. This quote proves that wrong.

                      Also think Torres is having an indirect pop at Purslow, Broughton & H&G here.

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                        Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                        Torres was one of the most often named players when people talk about the idea that Rafa 'lost' the dressing room. This quote proves that wrong.
                        nah it just proves torres is a fickle person, they made their peace once he left but he wanted him out or out himself

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                          Originally posted by Liverpool View Post
                          nah it just proves torres is a fickle person, they made their peace once he left but he wanted him out or out himself
                          Arn?
                          *Except Michael, who died.

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                            nah this one is based around facts

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                              Originally posted by Liverpool View Post
                              nah this one is based around facts
                              We are only talking in facts.
                              *Except Michael, who died.

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                                Originally posted by Liverpool View Post
                                nah it just proves torres is a fickle person, they made their peace once he left but he wanted him out or out himself
                                Then Rafa was out, and.....Oh, Torres still left. The only players Rafa lost were Gerrard and Carra, and once that happened it may as well have been the whole side.
                                Last edited by Vermilion; 17-11-11, 04:39 PM.

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