Adam Lallana

[dww]

Coutinho aside who doesn't get as many as he should there are no real goal threats in midfield. Our play may now be high energy but is still very one paced.

I think Lallana is every bit as much of a goal threat as Coutinho. Neither has done well enough, but I feel both could do more.

[Danish_Pastry]

Both could do with a break - a pressure by Klopp picking other players for their position. As long as he doesn't, then none of them will put in a better performance.

[Dessy]

Both do as equally well/poorly as each other but whatever they should no start together in same team.

[danperkins]

Corrected.

Probably why we were linked to Mkhitaryan.

[Phoenix07]

I find Lallana really frustrating. There are moments of quality, but more often than not, he slows things down. Some of his passes are strange too. He puts too much or too little weight behind them, which contributes to the disruption of the attack.

He should be a squad player. because he does help us defensively, and on occasions in attack, but not enough to warrant a starting position. Who starts in place of him is tricky though.

[Danish_Pastry]

I find Lallana really frustrating. There are moments of quality, but more often than not, he slows things down. Some of his passes are strange too. He puts too much or too little weight behind them, which contributes to the disruption of the attack.

He should be a squad player. because he does help us defensively, and on occasions in attack, but not enough to warrant a starting position. Who starts in place of him is tricky though.

TEXEIRA - could fancy Klopp would give him a go...

[Boogs]

TEXEIRA - could fancy Klopp would give him a go...

Why people keep banging on about Tex is baffling.

He played for Brighton last year and was their stand out player for the season but they scraped through to stay in the division.

They are the only team this season in all the leagues to be unbeaten as yet. The summer additions have not been outstanding by any stretch of the imagination.

Klopp isn't playing him for a reason. He watches him everyday and I feel safe in saying that there will be a very good reason he isn't getting a run out and that his contract is nearly up and nothing is being done about it.

[danperkins]

Why people keep banging on about Tex is baffling.

He played for Brighton last year and was their stand out player for the season but they scraped through to stay in the division.

They are the only team this season in all the leagues to be unbeaten as yet. The summer additions have not been outstanding by any stretch of the imagination.

Klopp isn't playing him for a reason. He watches him everyday and I feel safe in saying that there will be a very good reason he isn't getting a run out and that his contract is nearly up and nothing is being done about it.

The same reason why people were banging on about Mellor, Dalla Valle, Pacheco, Suso blah blah blah. We over rated these kids, it's ridiculous. He's 22, if he hasn't got in by now that's saying something.

[Big-Red-Ed]

The question to ask is this. Where are we going wrong in the development of these best in their age group youngsters to turn them into flops?

[dww]

I think its worth remembering how rare development to the top level is. The fact we have developed Sterling, that Ibe has looked like a viable PL player and we have the likes of Rossiter playing games is well above most other teams.

The lower levels of the British game are more physically competitive and oriented to club success (rather than player development) so it is in someways unsurprising that PL teams struggle slightly more than some other teams. However, in the last few years there are not that many teams developing players and fighting at the op of leagues across Europe.

[Kenneth]

I'm not sure our development is any better than others. Ibe has looked like a young player who isn't ready for the PL but that we have been forced to play because of a lack of other options. Chelsea and Man City develop a lot of kids that we would probably play, but they won't because they don't need to.

[Alex]

When Sterling was coming through it was out of necessity wasn't it? Lack of a better option, and the fact that he is clearly a high level talent combined to mean he had a chance.

I dont think English talent does come through very well at the larger clubs to be fair, before Sterling it was Gerrard and before him it was Carragher for us. Hardly a prolific academy.

I honestly believe that clubs have academies now to create a steady income through selling the players on, in the hope that one in every 500 who pass through the doors breaks into the first team squad. There isnt much incentive to create home grown players in the UK at the top level premier league clubs. Its way simpler to just hoover up a talented 21 year old than nurture a promising 14 year old.

[DannyMan2006]

Most youngsters that come through has a lot to do with luck on their part. Randall is getting his chance tonight because in essence we are missing Gomez & Flanagan and need to rest Clyne.

If Randall performs tonight then that's down to his ability, but it'd have been an element of luck for him to get his chance. Likewise, Origi has been lucky to have been getting so much game time, but you still have to be ready to take that chance.

[Exiled_red]

When Sterling was coming through it was out of necessity wasn't it? Lack of a better option, and the fact that he is clearly a high level talent combined to mean he had a chance.

I dont think English talent does come through very well at the larger clubs to be fair, before Sterling it was Gerrard and before him it was Carragher for us. Hardly a prolific academy.

I honestly believe that clubs have academies now to create a steady income through selling the players on, in the hope that one in every 500 who pass through the doors breaks into the first team squad. There isnt much incentive to create home grown players in the UK at the top level premier league clubs. Its way simpler to just hoover up a talented 21 year old than nurture a promising 14 year old.

I agree with bits of that, there is a bit of an insentive in terms of European squads where you have to have 8 homegrown players 4 of whom are locally trained - this is essentially the reason that Teixeira isn't in the European squad - because we have had to fill up those places with people who would otherwise have been eligible for the B-list (or whatever it is called). This isn't so much an insentive as a minor inconvenience for us to be honest.

The model you suggest is fine for someone like Man Utd they bring through a few yong players who can do a job for a few years and then they sell them off to a midtable / bottom half of the PL table team for a few million quid, In case you hadn't guessed I'm talking about the likes of Wes Brown and John O'Shea. Beyond that the have had Danny Welbeck, Tom Cleverley, Darren Fletcher, Frazer Campbell, Darren Gibson, Kieran Richardson, etc All of whom have managed to secure moves to other PL clubs. I am struggling to think of youngsters that we have let go who have played for other PL clubs (Sterling aside), the only one I can think of is Danny Guthrie who played a bit for Newcastle, beyond that the was Adam Hammill who played about have a season for Wolves(?) Tom Ince I think had a short spell in the PL with someone but I really am scraping the barrell here. Most of our youngsters end up Championship at best but mostly in the lower leagues - Now I know statistically that is most likely to happen but it seems Man Utd have been much more successful at this than us.

[DannyMan2006]

I'm not sure our development is any better than others. Ibe has looked like a young player who isn't ready for the PL but that we have been forced to play because of a lack of other options. Chelsea and Man City develop a lot of kids that we would probably play, but they won't because they don't need to.

Chelsea & City have been great at developing players to a certain level. It's that final step that they're not getting right atm. Maybe in a few years that will change. A couple starting to come through for both clubs.