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    Originally posted by Fredo View Post
    Lack of confidence. I remember a time when nothing went in for Fowler. Carried on for a few months.
    I'm really not sure what comparison you're trying to make here.

    Fowler had dips in form? Yes.

    Benteke hasn't had form to dip He's been at best average and at worst a liability.

    Today he was better, in terms of his overall contribution but the bar was so low it really wasn't difficult for him to do that. In front of goal he was very poor again, confidence plays some part but its no excuse for his lack of movement or dumb running offside, I don't think he's cut out for the top level. In fact he's the same at international level, he got found out there and his form has carried over to us.
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        Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp: "We had chances but we didn't score goals, I saw a good game from my side. We had big fight, a lot of good team tactical things, nice enjoyable performances. But the result is not what you want.

        Does Christian Benteke need one to go in? "I don't believe in the easy goal. He has to carry on like this. It's not the nicest moment in his career but he has to work hard. He wants to score and we need him to score. We will work on it in the days, weeks and months until the Summer when I plan to sell him to China"
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          Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp: "We had chances but we didn't score goals, I saw a good game from my side. We had big fight, a lot of good team tactical things, nice enjoyable performances. But the result is not what you want.

          Does Christian Benteke need one to go in? "I don't believe in the easy goal. He has to carry on like this. It's not the nicest moment in his career but he has to work hard. He wants to score and we need him to score. We will work on it in the days, weeks and months until the Summer when I plan to sell him to China"
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            Originally posted by Robbie-9-Fowler View Post
            I'm really not sure what comparison you're trying to make here.

            Fowler had dips in form? Yes.

            Benteke hasn't had form to dip He's been at best average and at worst a liability.

            Today he was better, in terms of his overall contribution but the bar was so low it really wasn't difficult for him to do that. In front of goal he was very poor again, confidence plays some part but its no excuse for his lack of movement or dumb running offside, I don't think he's cut out for the top level. In fact he's the same at international level, he got found out there and his form has carried over to us.
            It was a step up from him. A big one. Then, if you look at his record for Villa, 70 odd goals in 120 or so games, certainly shows that he knows where the goal is. He'll be given next year, so people will have to be patient with him.
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              Originally posted by Robbie-9-Fowler View Post
              I'm really not sure what comparison you're trying to make here.

              Fowler had dips in form? Yes.

              Benteke hasn't had form to dip He's been at best average and at worst a liability.

              Today he was better, in terms of his overall contribution but the bar was so low it really wasn't difficult for him to do that. In front of goal he was very poor again, confidence plays some part but its no excuse for his lack of movement or dumb running offside, I don't think he's cut out for the top level. In fact he's the same at international level, he got found out there and his form has carried over to us.
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                Originally posted by Fredo View Post
                It was a step up from him. A big one. Then, if you look at his record for Villa, 70 odd goals in 120 or so games, certainly shows that he knows where the goal is. He'll be given next year, so people will have to be patient with him.
                As if you know that he'll get another season

                He'll be sold in the summer, so you'll just have to get used to life without him.
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                  He won't be sold. You will have to get used to that fact.
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                    Originally posted by Fredo View Post
                    He won't be sold. You will have to get used to that fact.
                    OK Jurgen. We'll see.
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                      Originally posted by Fredo View Post
                      He'll be given next year, so people will have to be patient with him.
                      You said exactly the same about Brendan and we all know how that ended
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                        Originally posted by Fredo View Post
                        It was a step up from him. A big one. Then, if you look at his record for Villa, 70 odd goals in 120 or so games, certainly shows that he knows where the goal is. He'll be given next year, so people will have to be patient with him.
                        It was a step up, I'm not disputing that. Its the equivalent of stepping from the gutter to the curb though.

                        His time at Villa is irrelevant, they literally whipped balls into the box at the earliest opportunity and we're never going to play that way. In a more progressive side that retain possession pushing defences deeper (Belgium) he hasn't been able to cut it, the exact same thing has happened here.

                        He seems like a nice guy (probably too nice) but at the end of the day we needed a striker to hang our hat on and unfortunately its not him.. As for if he'll be here next season, I'm not certain, our striker options are a mess and it could go one of a few ways come the summer.
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                          Originally posted by Assassin View Post
                          .......and a ****ing supporter.....not someone who is bipolar......
                          Haha superfan
                          Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                            Nigel knows everything

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                              I think Klopp likes him.
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                                I like Benteke, but he has been a flop so far at LFC. I do think he can't play as a lone striker and playing him in that role consistently is not doing him or us any favours.

                                He seems to be very timid and very heskyish in mentality, he's just too nice. Big man that should be bouncing CB's out of the way but jut doesn't do it. He will be judged on goals at the end of the season. His approach play improved tonight but his end product is shocking in this moment. His confidence looks shot to ****, he is hesitating to shoot, he is hesitating to move into dangerous areas in the box. I wouldn't say he's the smartest footballer around and his positional play does raise some questions but I do feel that a complete lack of confidence is playing a big role in him failing here. Obviosuly though that's no good to us.

                                I would like to see him played up top alongside Sturridge for a few games.
                                Last edited by danperkins; 10-02-16, 12:40 AM.

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