Christian Benteke

[Vermilion]

Curious.

What order would people put these 3 in as far as their quality.

Lukaku Benteke Bony.

[BigChief]

Curious.

What order would people put these 3 in as far as their quality.

Lukaku Benteke Bony.

Not difficult at all, on current form (i.e. this season) 1. Lukaku, 2. Bony, 3. Benteke. And its not even close between the gaps.

[Lecter]

It was a super defensive display from West Brom and this sort of tactic can throttle the best of strikers.

I'm not Benteke's biggest fan but he can be a good attribute for the team with his strength and presence.

I still strongly believe we should play 2 up front at home too.

West Brom did defend well but I think we played into their hands

We had Benteke upfront against 2 or 3 very physical defenders. We would have been better going for pace and movement than an aerial threat or strength

I thought we looked far more effective when we brought Origi and Ibe on because then we had quick players who were actually prepared to run at them

[captainfog]

I've though for a while that shoehorning him in to the starting team is a mistake. He could be a valuable player once we work out how to use him but at present he just upsets our rhythm and makes as slow to get into games. As a sub he has shown he can help up vary what we are doing but we have to have established a pattern of play for that to work.

Pulis would utilise him well. I don't want to play that kind of football though. Sell.

[RichC]

Benteke is a funny one, he'll score us goals and probably get on streaks from time to time but his work rate and movement just don't seem to suit the squad of players we have or the style of football we're trying to play.

The side screams out for a player with pace, movement and a high work rate.

[Fosterbloke]

The side screams out for a player with pace, movement and a high work rate.

Clearly this is the player you're looking for -

[Fierce]

I've though for a while that shoehorning him in to the starting team is a mistake. He could be a valuable player once we work out how to use him but at present he just upsets our rhythm and makes as slow to get into games. As a sub he has shown he can help up vary what we are doing but we have to have established a pattern of play for that to work.

Benteke is a funny one, he'll score us goals and probably get on streaks from time to time but his work rate and movement just don't seem to suit the squad of players we have or the style of football we're trying to play.

I can understand Rodgers 'needing' to play him to justify the spend, but Jurgen didn't (god I hope he didn't) have a hand in the signing, so he's entitled to use the player(s) that he feels best fit his vision

From what we've seen so far, plus that of Dortmund:

The side screams out for a player with pace, movement and a high work rate.

Origi is the only one that comes close to that right now

[red g]

Curious.

What order would people put these 3 in as far as their quality.

Lukaku Benteke Bony.

All 3 have similar attributes the difference is that Lukaku scores goals consistently so its easy to overlook his deficiencies, Also very young and will only get better imo.

Many an Everton fan have moaned to be about Lukaku's all round play but who gives a **** when he is a scoring record like he does!!

[danperkins]

All 3 have similar attributes the difference is that Lukaku scores goals consistently so its easy to overlook his deficiencies, Also very young and will only get better imo.

Many an Everton fan have moaned to be about Lukaku's all round play but who gives a **** when he is a scoring record like he does!!

Lukaku has been laughed at by few on here, guy has some eye for goal. I think he has 70 goals since coming to England. I'll be surprised if he stays at Everton beyond next season, was surprised he went there in the first place to be honest.

[vlahka]

Lukaku is a far better option to Benteke. For one he actually moves.

[Rowan]

Because he is playing exactly like he did at Villa. The difference is with us he has less space and there is a greater epectation.

He still is a poor passer
He still can't take people on
He still is highly static

Good finisher, poor footballer. Which makes him a midtable player and sadly for us a huge waste of money.

Yip. Thought he'd be better but so far he's looked like a total horses arse. When he tries to run its almost like he's got a parachute strapped to him.

Rate ****e this lad.

[danperkins]

Lukaku is a far better option to Benteke. For one he actually moves.

He does certainly seem to drop deep,in the wide areas & run at defenders alright. We haven't seen nowhere near the best of Benteke, lets hope Klopp can focus on getting more movement into his game. It's not like Benteke isn't agile or quick... so lazy maybe? Too used to the lump?

As for him being static and on his heels in the box, which he annoyingly has.... surely that can be worked on?

[Fierce]

Because he is playing exactly like he did at Villa. The difference is with us he has less space and there is a greater epectation.

He still is a poor passer
He still can't take people on
He still is highly static

Good finisher, poor footballer. Which makes him a midtable player and sadly for us a huge waste of money.

If I hadn't seen him for us I'd think this was OTT, largely because the way Villa played he didn't need to address your concerns. But he's looked completely at odds with what you'd expect a striker to play like in this team

[red g]

Wouldnt be surprised if we tried to offload in January if we can bring in someone else.

Even send him on loan in Jan to some lower prem team as the longer he stays with us his value will only decrease

Another Striker
Sturridge
Firminho
Origi

SHould see us through this season, Maybe Ings back towards the later end too?

[frank the tank]

Wouldnt be surprised if we tried to offload in January if we can bring in someone else.

Even send him on loan in Jan to some lower prem team as the longer he stays with us his value will only decrease

Another Striker
Sturridge
Firminho
Origi

SHould see us through this season, Maybe Ings back towards the later end too?

they will give Benteke at least this season. If Balotelli wasn't such a knob, then he'd have been given another season as well....

For me, Benteke isn't a bad player at all. If we had genuine wide players that get to the byline and put in proper crosses, then Benteke would do the business. However, Brendan never played that way so why the fock Benteke was ever bought is beyond me. Although we all think that we vastly overpaid, i bet Aston Villa would gladly turn the clock back if they could and have Benteke at least offering a threat for them.

If we want to get anything out of Benteke, then i think Klopp will need to be consistent in the way he sets the team up. Pick a formation and 8 out of the 11 players and stick to it. In reality, 4-3-2-1 against WBA was never going to get the best out of Benteke. (and to be honest, i don't think it was the best formation to play against a team who would essentially put 10 men behind the ball). I personally think we should have started with genuine width, maybe a 4-2-3-1 with Ibe, Coutinho and Origi all behind Benteke. When Ibe and Origi came on, then we had genuine width for the first time and it just looked so much better. Alternatively he could have played a diamond with Origi up top with Benteke...and coutinho behind. Both front men could then have taken turns to pull wide and create space for themselves.

I think to get the most out of someone like Benteke though, we will have to play the same way pretty much every week. I would actually prefer the diamond because (a) we don't have strenght in depth in wide positions (b) if and when Sturridge ever returns, then he could slot right into a tried and tested system.