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    Its a discussion forum. People are not morons for questioning the manager.
    *Except Michael, who died.

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      Originally posted by Nicey View Post
      Anybody who questions Klopp is a ****ing moron.
      The biggest moron in the room is you.

      Of course people should be allowed to question klopp. Yes he's had bad luck RE injuries, but you have to make your own luck at times. He's not doing a very good job right now. Results and performances are fairly ****. Do I think he will get better? Yes I do. I think top 6 next season is realistic, but if he isn't allowed to bring in established players and we continue down the route of potential, or overpriced home grown players, he will only get so far.

      He will never have the connection between fans at matches here that he had at Dortmund. He bounced back off them and they gave him everything back. The demographic at Liverpool games will never change to young men singing their hearts out. It's too expensive. Because we are lfc, there will always be the tourists following us. It can't change. This may hamper him.
      Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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        Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
        The biggest moron in the room is you.

        Of course people should be allowed to question klopp. Yes he's had bad luck RE injuries, but you have to make your own luck at times. He's not doing a very good job right now. Results and performances are fairly ****. Do I think he will get better? Yes I do. I think top 6 next season is realistic, but if he isn't allowed to bring in established players and we continue down the route of potential, or overpriced home grown players, he will only get so far.

        He will never have the connection between fans at matches here that he had at Dortmund. He bounced back off them and they gave him everything back. The demographic at Liverpool games will never change to young men singing their hearts out. It's too expensive. Because we are lfc, there will always be the tourists following us. It can't change. This may hamper him.
        Disagree, i think Dortmund have loads of fans in their stadium that are the same as ours and don't add to the noise, but they have a hard core of fans in a certain stand that provide a raucous atmosphere, don't see why that isn't possible at Anfield at all.

        Fans will always reflect the style of football played and the results gained or lost from it, start playing good football and winning and the atmospehere will imo take care of itself, Klopp knows this all too well.
        Last edited by Vermilion; 09-02-16, 01:06 PM.

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          Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
          The biggest moron in the room is you.

          Of course people should be allowed to question klopp. Yes he's had bad luck RE injuries, but you have to make your own luck at times. He's not doing a very good job right now. Results and performances are fairly ****. Do I think he will get better? Yes I do. I think top 6 next season is realistic, but if he isn't allowed to bring in established players and we continue down the route of potential, or overpriced home grown players, he will only get so far.

          He will never have the connection between fans at matches here that he had at Dortmund. He bounced back off them and they gave him everything back. The demographic at Liverpool games will never change to young men singing their hearts out. It's too expensive. Because we are lfc, there will always be the tourists following us. It can't change. This may hamper him.
          Moron.
          "Justice has been done."

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            Originally posted by Glenn Hysen View Post
            Moron.
            **** off
            Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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              Until the recruitment situation is sorted out, we get some ballsy players actually suited to a style of play, and the club stop trying to cheat at transfers, I don't think it matters who is in charge. There hasn't really been a noticeable change since Jurgen came in - we had a slight bounce, but the issues here are deeply embedded.

              He'll earn his money by sorting them out and how he goes about attacking them.

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                Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                **** off
                "Justice has been done."

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                  Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                  Good post Mosray

                  I also think Lallana has a future in the squad. I mean we paid too much for him and so far he hasn't consistently delivered but I have a feeling in a stronger squad with a decent centre forward he will shine. I think Klopp likes him too based on the early hugs. The only way I'd contemplate selling him is if we are getting a Reus type in. But I think Lallana will be a decent option in the squad.

                  I think we need to build a platform at the back no n centre mid and then with perhaps one class addition up front we've got some good options. It all depends on the Sturridge factor, what can we genuinely expect to see from him over the next 2/3 years?
                  If you mean Sturridge then it all depends on his ability to stay injury free for longer terms than previously. He is without a doubt a very good striker and probably the best in the League on his day. So if he manages to be able to play for 70% of the next couple of seasons he'll be invaluable to the club. Now that is a big IF. Klopp will buy a top striker in the next window without a doubt.
                  Regarding A.L If he starts to take more responsibility and makes better decisions he'll be a good squad player for sure. He is better than what we are seeing at Liverpool.

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                    Originally posted by Tribute View Post
                    ...and Firmino?
                    I only just noticed that I left him out lol. Of course firming -he is the only bright light in the squad right now and with better players around him he will excel

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                      Originally posted by MosRay View Post
                      I only just noticed that I left him out lol. Of course firming -he is the only bright light in the squad right now and with better players around him he will excel
                      Is that you Harv?

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                        i cant believe that anyone at this point is questioning klopp given that hes only had benteke as a fit striker for most of the season thus far. He said himself that its not about results but about progression and that at this stage style of play, shape etc.. are more important than getting points.

                        However, there are two ways to look at this.

                        first one is that klopp goes for short term success over long term development of the team. He aims for wins and getting as many points on the board and as possible using a style of play not suited to the team and building everything around getting the best out of benteke. we push hard for 4th but end up finishing 6th because building a team around benteke isnt good enough at the top end of football. This creates short term success and can build confidence within the team and fan base. At least fans think we've had a go and are happy going into the next season.

                        The second one is that he has gone for long term development of the team over short term success. He has built the team around firmino knowing full well that the other pieces of the puzzle arent there and he will put himself under pressure from the fans by not getting short term results. However, in the long term the team can reach much higher levels by getting players in and around firmino, sturridge (or another striker) and coutinho.

                        He's obviously gone for the second option and in my eyes its 100% the right thing to do. This season is a freebie for kloppo and he can either waste it all by trying to get results playing a style of football knowing full well it has to change next season or introduce elements of his preferred style with the acknowledgement that it wont click yet but once he has bought in his own players it will.

                        If he builds this season around benteke, we face introducing a totally new style of play in the period between the end of the euros and the start of the season. He has to introduce and implement his new style of playing with the WHOLE squad in 3 weeks.

                        Thats impossible. we need to hit the ground running at the start of next season and if this league season is a car crash to achieve that im fine with that. If you add to this the lack of training time due to the schedule, its a little bit short sighted to be having a go at kloppo now.

                        He's putting pressure on himself for the long term benefit of the team.
                        [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                          Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                          The biggest moron in the room is you.

                          Of course people should be allowed to question klopp. Yes he's had bad luck RE injuries, but you have to make your own luck at times. He's not doing a very good job right now. Results and performances are fairly ****. Do I think he will get better? Yes I do. I think top 6 next season is realistic, but if he isn't allowed to bring in established players and we continue down the route of potential, or overpriced home grown players, he will only get so far.

                          He will never have the connection between fans at matches here that he had at Dortmund. He bounced back off them and they gave him everything back. The demographic at Liverpool games will never change to young men singing their hearts out. It's too expensive. Because we are lfc, there will always be the tourists following us. It can't change. This may hamper him.
                          If you are questiong Jurgen ****ing Klopp with zero signings after coming in mid season then I am sorry you 100% are a ****ing moron .. dont let anybody tell you any different a complete and utter moron
                          Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                          #****CITY

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                            Originally posted by Nicey View Post
                            If you are questiong Jurgen ****ing Klopp with zero signings after coming in mid season then I am sorry you 100% are a ****ing moron .. dont let anybody tell you any different a complete and utter moron
                            Fence sitter

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                              Honestly questioning the most perfect manager for this ****ing club, a manager both of his previous clubs would bite your ****ing arm off to take him back .. a manager nearly every ****ing fan in the land would have him as their manager ... every team in the world ... all of the ****ing top teams would take him, a manager who has had the worse ****ing injury crisis in living memory whilst at the same time playing the most ****ing games in a very very long time, with a Brendan Rodgers team that lacks bollix, yet still is in one ****ing Cup final, set up nicely for 2 others .... with a team that is not ****ing his .. not one of them ..after what 3 ****ing whole months ... 3 months .. i am sorry but **** off ...
                              Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                              #****CITY

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                                What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins

                                Batman

                                F*** off!!!

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