Jürgen Klopp

[Norbs]

Nah, happens all the time. It'll be a fine

[Red_Polo]

It's ****ing bollocks. Nothing wrong with suggesting this sort of unconscious bias, it's a fact of human existence and not some sort of allegation of corruption ffs.

[Fosterbloke]

It's ****ing bollocks. Nothing wrong with suggesting this sort of unconscious bias, it's a fact of human existence and not some sort of allegation of corruption ffs.

Is it though if you're calling into question a referee's impartiality?

Of course we know it's a fact but that's to be debated externally, not by the manager of the team who was potentially affected!

[Red_Polo]

Is it though if you're calling into question a referee's impartiality?

Of course we know it's a fact but that's to be debated externally, not by the manager of the team who was potentially affected!

There is an enormous difference between suggesting a referee has a vested interest in deliberately favouring one team, and suggesting something circumstantial may have affected their thinking.

[Liverpool]

I watched the interview in real time, it was obvious he'd be fined for his comments.

Unnecessary and he knows better, but not the end of the world.

I'd like to see a short documentary following our press guy Matt and watch him trying to stop Klopp saying stupid stuff

[Tatterdemalion]

There is an enormous difference between suggesting a referee has a vested interest in deliberately favouring one team, and suggesting something circumstantial may have affected their thinking.

A referee who supports Man Utd who referees a game between Liverpool and Man Utd and gives a dubious decision in favour of Man Utd may be biased. It could become more obvious if it happens frequently, even if the ref is trying to be objective. A referee who doesn't necessarily care, but is paid either monetarily or in kind to bias decisions one way or another, well that referee would be corrupt.

I think some people on this site are either unable to tell the difference, don't care, or genuinely think (erroneously in my view) that ''bent' refereeing is commonplace, which just makes their fandom pointless. Why follow football if you just think it is bent?

EDIT: Or being a bad loser, just use refereeing as an excuse. If I were a player, it would be my last excuse.

[Red_Polo]

A referee who supports Man Utd who referees a game between Liverpool and Man Utd and gives a dubious decision in favour of Man Utd may be biased. It could become more obvious if it happens frequently, even if the ref is trying to be objective. A referee who doesn't necessarily care, but is paid either monetarily or in kind to bias decisions one way or another, well that referee would be corrupt.

I think some people on this site are either unable to tell the difference, don't care, or genuinely think (erroneously in my view) that ''bent' refereeing is commonplace, which just makes their fandom pointless. Why follow football if you just think it is bent?

EDIT: Or being a bad loser, just use refereeing as an excuse. If I were a player, it would be my last excuse.

I think again you're referring to conscious bias.

What Jurgen is alluding to is an unconscious bias caused by an innate desire NOT to compound mistakes towards a particular team. In other words overcompensating out of a desire to be fair.

[Tatterdemalion]

I think again you're referring to conscious bias.

What Jurgen is alluding to is an unconscious bias caused by an innate desire NOT to compound mistakes towards a particular team. In other words overcompensating out of a desire to be fair.

Yeh I know the point he is making. I was using it as an opportunity to make another point. Because I'm a C*nt.

[Red_Polo]

Yeh I know the point he is making. I was using it as an opportunity to make another point. Because I'm a C*nt.

Yes, I felt there might be something else you were getting at

[danperkins]

Yeh I know the point he is making. I was using it as an opportunity to make another point. Because I'm a C*nt.

[Yozza]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47323892

Jurgen Klopp: Liverpool manager fined £45,000 by FA for comments about referee

Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp has been fined £45,000 after accepting a Football Association charge for comments he made about referee Kevin Friend after the Reds' 1-1 draw against West Ham earlier this month.


**** off - £45k for comments about a ref?

[BigChief]

You get fined a tenth of that if you shout explicit racist abuse from many European football grounds.

Priorities.

[vlahka]

Should be paid in pennies. **** them.

[EwarWoo]

**** off - £45k for comments about a ref?

Perspective in it. Equivalent to someone on average UK wage getting fined 180 quid.

It's just a slap on the wrist.

[Angryred]

Perspective in it. Equivalent to someone on average UK wage getting fined 180 quid.

It's just a slap on the wrist.

Aye, I would appeal it if I were him as citing precedent & excessive fine in past charges for commenting on referees from others.