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    Originally posted by kemm1 View Post
    Wow....
    Wow what?

    I'm saying he's not beyond critism.

    He does have a conservative approach to games at times and sets up the midfield with zero goal threat.

    He's done a remarkable job here so far.

    Top class bloke.

    His subs are sometimes strange and rarely changes the approach if it's not working.

    All fair comments surely,?
    Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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      Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
      Wow what?

      I'm saying he's not beyond critism.

      He does have a conservative approach to games at times and sets up the midfield with zero goal threat.

      He's done a remarkable job here so far.

      Top class bloke.

      His subs are sometimes strange and rarely changes the approach if it's not working.

      All fair comments surely,?

      We shipped a truck load of goals last season and couldn't hold a lead. His more balanced approach has lead us to having one of the best season's in terms of points total in the history of the club. We are also still in with a shout of beating Bayern Munich in the CL.

      We need a number 10 to address teams that sit back, we miss Ox but we don't have the same financial resources of our main rivals. He has done a fantastic job both in the transfer market and on the field.

      Bit of perspective won't hurt.

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        It's true, but I enjoyed watching us more last season I think.
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          Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
          It's true, but I enjoyed watching us more last season I think.
          true. but i enjoy position in the league more.........
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          Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

          Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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            Groundhog day in 3 games in the league , playing conservatively , not moving the ball forward quick enough , Midfield not getting behind the front three as runners

            Seems like we are set up to not concede and hope our probing style gets a goal, but we are hardly creating anything and making the front three look toothless.

            Midfield is poor with zero goal threat.

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              Originally posted by gratziani View Post
              Groundhog day in 3 games in the league , playing conservatively , not moving the ball forward quick enough , Midfield not getting behind the front three as runners

              Seems like we are set up to not concede and hope our probing style gets a goal, but we are hardly creating anything and making the front three look toothless.

              Midfield is poor with zero goal threat.
              I felt like Klopp came for a draw yesterday and got one. Normally I would have been fine with that but not in these circumstances.

              They were absolutely there for the taking and we never really went for the winner. Really disappointing.

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                Originally posted by Pablo View Post
                I felt like Klopp came for a draw yesterday and got one. Normally I would have been fine with that but not in these circumstances.

                They were absolutely there for the taking and we never really went for the winner. Really disappointing.


                They were all over the shop with their injuries and subs , totally spent

                Last season we would of gone for the jugular and been 3 up at half time

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                  Originally posted by Pablo View Post
                  I felt like Klopp came for a draw yesterday and got one. Normally I would have been fine with that but not in these circumstances.

                  They were absolutely there for the taking and we never really went for the winner. Really disappointing.
                  Don't know about that. Klopp was visibly as frustrated as anyone. If we were playing for a draw then you'd have to say we got it spot on yesterday and so there'd be no reason why he wouldn't be content with how the game went.
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                    Originally posted by Pepe79 View Post
                    Don't know about that. Klopp was visibly as frustrated as anyone. If we were playing for a draw then you'd have to say we got it spot on yesterday and so there'd be no reason why he wouldn't be content with how the game went.
                    I think it's fair to say he set up for a draw initially. As the game wore on he realised there was a chance to win it, but I still feel he was more scared of losing it than he was excited about the possibility of winning it.

                    I think his frustration at the end was more about how poorly we'd played rather than the result, which is understandable.

                    Easy with the benefit of hindsight but given the team they ended up with by HT, if we'd really gone for it from the start we could have walked it.

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                      Originally posted by gratziani View Post


                      They were all over the shop with their injuries and subs , totally spent

                      Last season we would of gone for the jugular and been 3 up at half time
                      He took Henderson off for Shaqiri, I think that showed attacking intent?

                      It may not have worked out but he tried it. He also switched out Salah who was having a mare.

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                        In fairness, Utd were defending quite well which led to key players getting frustrated.
                        But some of the substitutions left me baffled...Why didn't Keita come on instead of Sturridge?...Keita would have had a bit more go than Sturridge in a deeper role.
                        Nope, don't need anger management, you just need to stop pissing me off!

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                          Originally posted by Pablo View Post
                          I think it's fair to say he set up for a draw initially. As the game wore on he realised there was a chance to win it, but I still feel he was more scared of losing it than he was excited about the possibility of winning it.

                          I think his frustration at the end was more about how poorly we'd played rather than the result, which is understandable.

                          Easy with the benefit of hindsight but given the team they ended up with by HT, if we'd really gone for it from the start we could have walked it.
                          His frustration was clear early on though. Even in the first half, he was going ape**** at our final ball.
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                            Originally posted by Pepe79 View Post
                            His frustration was clear early on though. Even in the first half, he was going ape**** at our final ball.
                            It was but I'm disappointed he put sturridge on so early. That led to nothing but frustration. The hard faced response would have been to admit his mistake and take him off. Face the consequences of an unhappy player after the match.

                            We created nothing. Zilch. He should be concerned.
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                              Originally posted by labourRed View Post
                              Obviously i agree re Sturridge but I'll caveat that by saying he looks incredible in training. Only Salah can touch him in shooting drills (and I've watched a few).

                              But as you say, he's finished when he comes to match play and again I'd even prefer Origi to him and Origi isn't great either.
                              Dunc?

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                                I get that injuries changed the game and the way Utd went about things after a fairly positive and lively start from us... but what I don't get is at half-time, why didn't Klopp change it up and take advantage of what everyone could see.

                                Sturridge sub in the first half was a mistake - should have been Keita. But then he should have changed it up with TAA and Shaq coming on for Milner and Hendo. We would have undoubtedly got more from Salah in that second half with a more creative (and energised) approach to midfield... Utd wouldn't have been able to live with us.

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