Sadio Mané

[Tribute]

What made me chuckle a bit was:

Ronaldo scores- Job done, can't argue with that.
Mane scores- Should have scored more, something not right with him.

Similarly, I'm sure there was a match thread post, fuming that we don't take our chances 'like United do' and that we were gonna draw the game. At that stage we were dominating, 1-0 up, also had a goal disallowed. At the same point in United game, they were 0-0, struggling to break Newcastle down until they got that lucky spill in injury time.

Yeah Red, that was me.. and while United are not dominating games like we do.. they have a better goals:chances created than we do by some distance, as do City and the Chavs. My point was less about other teams, more that we flatter to deceive when we're so wasteful (or just not clinical) in front of goal. We've had 100+ chances in the first four games alone...

Mane is playing much better than last season, just needs to finish a few more chances off and he'll be close to where he was two seasons ago...

[brightred]

I cant really be arsed reading that all. I watched the game and saw a guy miss 6 extremely good chances. His movement was great, he was in fantastic positions over and over again after we'd won the ball back in midfield, his touch was poor a lot of the time though and he mi**** passes as a result when Mo and co were in very good areas, he was also very greedy. Which is not great when you're having a stinker in front of goal and others are lined up waiting to show him how to finish. Basically he played like Spain's favourite whipping boy Alvaro Morata. Lots of desire, great runs, but incredibly wasteful.

But then again Im a prick and don't abide by this modern-day "everyone wins a prize" mentality that everyone has. He had an ok game, he's lucky Leeds were **** and his missed chances didn't cost us. Doesn't deserve much praise though. It was a solid B- in my book.

Oh Harv!

Bet he score 20 goals this season, Calm down bud.

[Harv]

Is it good to score 20 when if you could finish properly you'd have scored 40?

[Fosterbloke]

Is it good to score 20 when if you could finish properly you'd have scored 40?

If those 20 goals change the outcome of a game as opposed to nice topping on a winning scoreline then yes. The goal against Leeds didn't matter apart from maybe a psychological boost to Mane.

[RedReet]

Is it good to score 20 when if you could finish properly you'd have scored 40?

Of course it is.

[Assassin]

I cant really be arsed reading that all. I watched the game and saw a guy miss 6 extremely good chances. His movement was great, he was in fantastic positions over and over again after we'd won the ball back in midfield, his touch was poor a lot of the time though and he mi**** passes as a result when Mo and co were in very good areas, he was also very greedy. Which is not great when you're having a stinker in front of goal and others are lined up waiting to show him how to finish. Basically he played like Spain's favourite whipping boy Alvaro Morata. Lots of desire, great runs, but incredibly wasteful.

But then again Im a prick and don't abide by this modern-day "everyone wins a prize" mentality that everyone has. He had an ok game, he's lucky Leeds were **** and his missed chances didn't cost us. Doesn't deserve much praise though. It was a solid B- in my book.

Owen needed at least 8 to 10 chances to bury 1 of them. I'm guessing you were always gushing about the little welsh boy. Settle down

[RedReet]

Yeah Red, that was me.. and while United are not dominating games like we do.. they have a better goals:chances created than we do by some distance, as do City and the Chavs. My point was less about other teams, more that we flatter to deceive when we're so wasteful (or just not clinical) in front of goal. We've had 100+ chances in the first four games alone...

Mane is playing much better than last season, just needs to finish a few more chances off and he'll be close to where he was two seasons ago...

Fair enough mate, although I just think things are magnified when it's your own team (why is it only us that get bad injuries, why is it only us that gets bad decisions etc.). As someone pointed out City had 25 shots and only scored 1, then you have Wolves who were creating loads but just not scoring before last weekend. It's a cliché, but we're better creating loads of chances and not finishing all of them, than creating few and relying on clinical finishing.

Mane was joint top scorer 2 seasons ago and he's playing alongside two lethal finishers in Mo and Jota, so it really is an area I'm not too concerned about.

[Harv]

Owen needed at least 8 to 10 chances to bury 1 of them. I'm guessing you were always gushing about the little welsh boy. Settle down

No he didn't, we didn't create 8-10 chance for him to miss under Ged.
You put a young, fit Owen on the end of those through balls and he would've bagged a hat trick. You put a young Fowler on the end of them and he'd have had 5

[The_weatherman]

I understand the criticism of Sadio but on the other hand he is looking way more energetic than last season, he's involved and creating chances and getting into positions, I'm convinced he'll get more goals soon. I think we'll get over 15 goals from him in the league this season.

[Assassin]

No he didn't, we didn't create 8-10 chance for him to miss under Ged.
You put a young, fit Owen on the end of those through balls and he would've bagged a hat trick. You put a young Fowler on the end of them and he'd have had 5

Owen had a woeful conversion rate. Fowler, however was immense, such a naturally gifted finisher

[labourRed]

I understand the criticism of Sadio but on the other hand he is looking way more energetic than last season, he's involved and creating chances and getting into positions, I'm convinced he'll get more goals soon. I think we'll get over 15 goals from him in the league this season.

Yeah, as others have said he's definitely an improvement on the end of last season. He was a bit streaky at Southampton which points to a confidence player. He also had a bad bout of covid last year to content with.

His all-round game isn't perfect nor is his finishing but i don't have too many worries about him.

[danperkins]

His energy and approach play is much better, his finishing not so much. He is so much better playing off his natural instinct, it does seem the more time he has to think about things, the worse the outcome.

He is a fabulous player and it will come good for him again, the guy is unplayable on his day. Maybe some shooting practice might come in handy in the meantime Sadio

[Charly]

Hopefully he will improve. He is nearly 30, and been in a bit of a rut for a while. I reckon we will bring in a replacement in the summer anyway, as we need to start bedding in a replacement for Salah and Mane.

But he still has quality. I reckon he is frustrated, and its affecting his natural flow a bit. Its not really a problem if we are winning games though.

I get the feeling he is a passionate guy, and any time he misses a shot he heaps more pressure on himself the next time. Perhaps someone could send him a compilation of all of Salah's missed shots

Ultimately, at his best he is every bit as dangerous as Salah, and I think thats it worth preserving. Give it another month and I reckon he will have his mojo back.

[RedReet]

Hopefully he will improve. He is nearly 30, and been in a bit of a rut for a while. I reckon we will bring in a replacement in the summer anyway, as we need to start bedding in a replacement for Salah and Mane.

But he still has quality. I reckon he is frustrated, and its affecting his natural flow a bit. Its not really a problem if we are winning games though.

I get the feeling he is a passionate guy, and any time he misses a shot he heaps more pressure on himself the next time. Perhaps someone could send him a compilation of all of Salah's missed shots

Ultimately, at his best he is every bit as dangerous as Salah, and I think thats it worth preserving. Give it another month and I reckon he will have his mojo back.

Less than a year ago...

https://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=89041&page=50

Obviously a year in football is a long time, but it's not long enough to write him off as some seem to be doing (not you BTW).

[Charly]

He did have a crap season, but nobody came out of 2020/21 smelling of roses (apart from the Mighty Nat). For me, he is getting into great positions, and overthinking it. Just needs to relax...