Sadio Mané

[Doc_Piptorious]

Because the conversation is basically saying that contracted players should not play for their countries.

Take a guy like Naby Keita- no way could Guinea afford to cover his costs in the event of injury.

If, say, the costs were covered by FIFA, then fair enough.

With regards to the chicken and egg of club v country and status then it’s an impossible solution, take Salah he was an icon in Egypt before he came to us (granted that has increased ten fold), but it seems unfair to deny his countrymen and women the chance to see him play.

Broadly speaking a fairer compromise has to be reached without the Countries suffering.

No it is not saying that at all.

My own suggestion was that for qualifiers and especially friendlies that the nation (or FIFA as you suggested) would be responsible for any paying of wages should the player be injured during such games (especially the friendlies) and that the actual tournaments would be at the club's own cost should at injury occur.

Now whether the nation or FIFA would pay for the wages in full or use an insurance company would be up to the Nation or FIFA to decide.

End of the day the Nation and FIFA get the use of the player with little to no outlay in the player and little by way of any financial risk whereas the club that pays the wages, that paid the tansfer fee, that pays for the player's training and medical upkeep has to take the risk when the player is playing for his country.

At no point did I suggest players should not play for their countries and clubs do not have to power to stop a player playing for their country anyway as FIFA can currently ban players for playing for their clubs for a number of games should clubs refuse to relsease players.

I would reckon that if Salah had an injury at the AFCON in January (a tournament that takes place mid season and not during the summer break but like the WC in Qutar that is another albeit related issue) that put him out for a year and we lost Mane to an injury at the same tournament not many here would be saying that it was good that people got to see them play for their countries.

[Buzzo]

No it is not saying that at all.

My own suggestion was that for qualifiers and especially friendlies that the nation (or FIFA as you suggested) would be responsible for any paying of wages should the player be injured during such games (especially the friendlies) and that the actual tournaments would be at the club's own cost should at injury occur.

Now whether the nation or FIFA would pay for the wages in full or use an insurance company would be up to the Nation or FIFA to decide.

End of the day the Nation and FIFA get the use of the player with little to no outlay in the player and little by way of any financial risk whereas the club that pays the wages, that paid the tansfer fee, that pays for the player's training and medical upkeep has to take the risk when the player is playing for his country.

At no point did I suggest players should not play for their countries and clubs do not have to power to stop a player playing for their country anyway as FIFA can currently ban players for playing for their clubs for a number of games should clubs refuse to relsease players.

I would reckon that if Salah had an injury at the AFCON in January (a tournament that takes place mid season and not during the summer break but like the WC in Qutar that is another albeit related issue) that put him out for a year and we lost Mane to an injury at the same tournament not many here would be saying that it was good that people got to see them play for their countries.

I didnt say 'you said that' - the conversation before was about making international football the same as the Olympics, that was what I was responding to.

You were the one that jumped on me saying it was arrogant I wasnt initially responding to you. I agree with you are saying, I am just pointing out that there is a different POV here, and that is the supporters of these countries.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Feck this. I now think Robertson should not be allowed to play for Scotland anymore.

[Buzzo]

Feck this. I now think Robertson should not be allowed to play for Scotland anymore.

Debate won by virtue of retirement

[Doc_Piptorious]

Debate won by virtue of retirement

Enjoy a Robertson free Scotland.

First no Irn Bru and now no more Robertson.

Next strike is going to be to take away all music from up there

[rudedog]

Also smaller nations will lose revenue in ticket sales when fans realise they won't see the star players from their country. For lots of countries the reality is that every game is to an extent a dead rubber.

There is an arrogance that comes with expecting everything to bend to the wills of the clubs, and it is annoying. But look how passionate Sadio Mane (and Mo) is about his country, the things he has done to assist his home region. For the people that worship these guys, and grew up in the same country the only chance they are ever likely to get to see them play is in these games. The clubs benefit because of the global fanbase that these guys help create.

The only fair solution is less games, and a calendar that acknowledges the workload on elite players.

[Buzzo]

7 league goals for Sadio. Joint second top scorer in the League.

[SB]

He’s certainly bounced back in some style after his drop in form.

[Mr Pink]

He’s certainly bounced back in some style after his drop in form.

that dip in form was after he caught covid too, reckon it will just have that affect on players. At that level being at 95% is just not good enough.

[Harv]

He’s certainly bounced back in some style after his drop in form.

His touch was absolutely shocking all game last night. He looked like he'd been on the bongs before the game. Falling over, running into people, passing it straight to Arsenal players.....then bang he suddenly comes alive and jags a goal and then had his trademark 'Mane touch' where he needs to put the afterburners on to catch up and dinks a little assist over for Mo.

[dizzycat]

His post Covid slump is definitely over.

[danperkins]

His touch was absolutely shocking all game last night. He looked like he'd been on the bongs before the game. Falling over, running into people, passing it straight to Arsenal players.....then bang he suddenly comes alive and jags a goal and then had his trademark 'Mane touch' where he needs to put the afterburners on to catch up and dinks a little assist over for Mo.

[SB]

His touch was absolutely shocking all game last night. He looked like he'd been on the bongs before the game. Falling over, running into people, passing it straight to Arsenal players.....then bang he suddenly comes alive and jags a goal and then had his trademark 'Mane touch' where he needs to put the afterburners on to catch up and dinks a little assist over for Mo.

He’s remembered where the back of the net is bro so that’ll do me for now

[RedReet]

Seen a Tweet pop up other day, reminding that Mane's contract expires at the same time as Mo's, which is a bit of a worry.

Considering the general consensus seems to be just give Mo whatever he asks for, what do we do with Mane? If Mo is getting 300/400k, what's a fair contract for Mane?

[Fivex]

Seen a Tweet pop up other day, reminding that Mane's contract expires at the same time as Mo's, which is a bit of a worry.

Considering the general consensus seems to be just give Mo whatever he asks for, what do we do with Mane? If Mo is getting 300/400k, what's a fair contract for Mane?

This might work?

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