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  • Zapater
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    If it were about the money I doubt we'd let him go for free would we? We'd sign him up on a bigger contract and find him a move to secure a reasonable transfer fee after next season.

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  • frank the tank
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    It's ****in nuts alright. He should be given a huge wedge.

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  • RedReet
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    Originally posted by Rich View Post
    I’m sure it’s just down to cash. He deserves a huge wage, not sure we think we can afford it.
    I refuse to believe that. From all parties I just can't see money being an obstacle.

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  • danperkins
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    Outstanding midfielder

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  • Rich
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    I’m sure it’s just down to cash. He deserves a huge wage, not sure we think we can afford it.

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  • RedReet
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    Why isn't this contract situation sorted?

    How important is a player like him, who is never injured and can play any position you ask him going to be in a season like this?

    I really would love to know what is going on behind the scenes.

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  • Shaggy
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    Originally posted by Harv View Post
    Cristiano Wijnaldum type number those.

    (I remember your joke when he first joined you evil ******* )

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  • Harv
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    Cristiano Wijnaldum type number those.

    (I remember your joke when he first joined you evil ******* )

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  • Shaggy
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    He's got 13 in his last 20

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  • RedReet
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    Goal scoring CB.

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  • Shaggy
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    Scored *again* for the Dutch

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  • RedReet
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    Originally posted by BigChief View Post
    Hasn't Klopp done this on a regular basis? Specially when the three had been Hendo-Fab-Gini or Hendo-Milner-Gini before Fab came along? Remember Keita has been pretty much injured for most of his career here.

    The stats can't have been good reading for the moneyball experts. Not to mention our own eyes. Unfortunately, or fortunately, Gini is an elite level defensive midfielder but only Newcastle level attacking mid. And we're not Newcastle.

    He generally plays on the left of our midfield 3 which is normally more disciplined than on the right, which is where Hendo often played when Fab was in the side, or our more attack minded players such as Ox, Naby and even Jones recently. Against Norwich and Chelsea this year, this was reversed and Gini was clearly instructed to play further up the field which was very noticeable in his average position and the number of chances he had.

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  • BigChief
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    Originally posted by RedReet View Post
    You wouldn't need to drop one of our attackers, just play him further forward in the midfield 3 as we did in the first two games of the season.
    Hasn't Klopp done this on a regular basis? Specially when the three had been Hendo-Fab-Gini or Hendo-Milner-Gini before Fab came along? Remember Keita has been pretty much injured for most of his career here.

    The stats can't have been good reading for the moneyball experts. Not to mention our own eyes. Unfortunately, or fortunately, Gini is an elite level defensive midfielder but only Newcastle level attacking mid. And we're not Newcastle.

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  • RedReet
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    Originally posted by BigChief View Post
    Who here as manager would drop one of Salah, Mane, Firmino or now Jota so Gini could play a more shackleless game? Not me. Not because we desperately need Gini in a defensive role as we have Fab and Hendo, but simply because Gini's attacking stats are poor in relation to our world class attackers. This includes ball rotation, speed to run past players, vision, etc, not to mention goals versus shots. His international form is irrelevant (aka the Poborsky Conundrum).

    I don't blame him if he wants to move so he can try that part of the game out. I probably would too. It just won't happen with us.
    You wouldn't need to drop one of our attackers, just play him further forward in the midfield 3 as we did in the first two games of the season.

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  • Zapater
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    Originally posted by BigChief View Post
    Who here as manager would drop one of Salah, Mane, Firmino or now Jota so Gini could play a more shackleless game? Not me. Not because we desperately need Gini in a defensive role as we have Fab and Hendo, but simply because Gini's attacking stats are poor in relation to our world class attackers. This includes ball rotation, speed to run past players, vision, etc, not to mention goals versus shots. His international form is irrelevant (aka the Poborsky Conundrum).

    I don't blame him if he wants to move so he can try that part of the game out. I probably would too. It just won't happen with us.
    This is his 5th season and to my memory has never played as a 10 in a 4-2-3-1 or out left in the 4-3-3 even when there were injuries other players were preferred. Prior to Jota, I would have preferred to see him on the left to Origi, but he was never given the nod. I think that says more than enough of where Klopp sees his qualities most valuable.

    His composure is strange though, when he scores it seems so natural. Then when he misses a simple chance, you almost scratch your head and wonder how he's scored any at all.

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