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  • Assassin
    Kloppite
    • Sep 2006
    • 25908

    #586
    Originally posted by Fuzzy
    He's absolute quality, the fact he hasn't been great playing completely out of position at a very weird-vibe Barca team means nothing to me. Would still be the best midfielder at the club.
    The fact that he's a sleazy liar rat is more of a problem though. Don't know if we could trust him not to pull the same **** and try to force a move to City or whatever two years after his return.

    But we've been after quite a few players who've done the same to other clubs, so...
    A three toed sloth is more dynamic than Coutinho. Ok, he offers something from free kicks but we are well covered in that area

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    • Norbs
      Big Girl's Blouse
      • Jun 2007
      • 42645

      #587
      Originally posted by Fuzzy
      He's absolute quality, the fact he hasn't been great playing completely out of position at a very weird-vibe Barca team means nothing to me. Would still be the best midfielder at the club.
      The fact that he's a sleazy liar rat is more of a problem though. Don't know if we could trust him not to pull the same **** and try to force a move to City or whatever two years after his return.

      But we've been after quite a few players who've done the same to other clubs, so...
      Buy for £8m, sell for £140m, buy for £70m, sell for £140m

      He's a cash cow

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      • Shaggy
        Unidentified Rascal
        • Jul 2006
        • 135533

        #588
        Originally posted by Fuzzy
        He's absolute quality, the fact he hasn't been great playing completely out of position at a very weird-vibe Barca team means nothing to me. Would still be the best midfielder at the club.
        The fact that he's a sleazy liar rat is more of a problem though. Don't know if we could trust him not to pull the same **** and try to force a move to City or whatever two years after his return.

        But we've been after quite a few players who've done the same to other clubs, so...
        Exactly, Virgil did more or less the same to Southampton. Who cares.
        Thanks very much for being

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        • Exiled_red
          Paisley
          • Nov 2007
          • 55283

          #589
          Originally posted by Shaggy
          Probably not a popular view but if we could nab him back for about £70m I'd bring him back. He'd play less than before, cos we're more solid and more productive points / wins wise without him, but if he did come back he'd slot straight back in, no upheaval or dramas, everyone knows him, he's well liked, he knows us and how we play etc.

          I'm not normally big on 'going back' but I think I'd prefer him than gambling on someone like Bruno Fernandes or whoever. Could be a seamless move, and it's easy to forget how good he was for us.

          I think for £70m and coming in as primarily an attacking midfielder and as an back up to Mane on the left from time to time it's a good option. I don't really like him as one of the forwards but playing an attacking midfield role playing through balls to Mane and Salah would be great, not to mention the ability to add goals from outside the box.

          Unfortunately I think that he would go for over £70m probably to PSG or Chelsea/Man Utd
          The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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          • danperkins
            Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
            • May 2010
            • 50412

            #590
            Nailed on for PSG imo

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            • Fosterbloke
              Run the Jewels
              • Dec 2009
              • 39095

              #591
              He can **** about with Neymar.
              Was mu

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              • baitman
                Dad's Cabs
                • Sep 2011
                • 27745

                #592
                Originally posted by foresterbloke
                He can **** about with Neymar.
                Like a ****ing loser he moves to be with neymar, but neymar ****s of from barca

                And same will happen if he ges to psg
                removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                • gratziani
                  Dalglish
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 2377

                  #593
                  Originally posted by Shaggy
                  Exactly, Virgil did more or less the same to Southampton. Who cares.


                  He was brilliant for us in the last two seasons and for 70 million that is a bargain if you forget all the other stuff

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                  • Assassin
                    Kloppite
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 25908

                    #594
                    Originally posted by gratziani


                    He was brilliant for us in the last two seasons and for 70 million that is a bargain if you forget all the other stuff
                    Like the eternal 'I want to move' bad back?

                    **** him. We are infinately better without him

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                    • Fuzzy
                      Dalglish
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 2238

                      #595
                      Originally posted by Assassin
                      Like the eternal 'I want to move' bad back?

                      **** him. We are infinately better without him
                      We're obviously better because of Van Dijk, Alisson and Fabinho, not because of him not being here. Even Robertson only started getting games in December before Coutinho left. Our midfield still cries for a creative player with lots of end product, and that's exactly what Coutinho was for us. He was honestly worth £140m here.

                      As for the bad back thing, I hate him for it and it's why I don't want us to sign him. But the truth is we have signed or tried to sign a few players with bad backs over the years and nobody cared. One and only single difference between them and Coutinho is that they haven't done it to us, but they're the same people.

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                      • gratziani
                        Dalglish
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 2377

                        #596
                        I get the hate for him for sure but we need another Midfielder / attacking player and dont see anyone who is as good as him

                        IF Klopp wants him then am happy for it to happen, If he wants another player will be happy as well.

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                        • Fosterbloke
                          Run the Jewels
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 39095

                          #597
                          Guedes looks pretty bloody handy
                          Was mu

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                          • Maxiedge
                            Shankly
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 7769

                            #598
                            Been thinking about this and we need a top player to rotate with Firmino/Mane more importantly than Mane/LCM

                            So for me, the ideal player would be Timo Werner.

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                            • Assassin
                              Kloppite
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 25908

                              #599
                              Originally posted by Fuzzy
                              We're obviously better because of Van Dijk, Alisson and Fabinho, not because of him not being here. Even Robertson only started getting games in December before Coutinho left. Our midfield still cries for a creative player with lots of end product, and that's exactly what Coutinho was for us. He was honestly worth £140m here.

                              As for the bad back thing, I hate him for it and it's why I don't want us to sign him. But the truth is we have signed or tried to sign a few players with bad backs over the years and nobody cared. One and only single difference between them and Coutinho is that they haven't done it to us, but they're the same people.
                              If you just look at Coutinho in isolation, forget the other players coming in

                              Coutinho always needed too much time on the ball
                              Coutinho always slowed down our counter attacks
                              Coutinho did not have the engine or the work ethic to function as a pressing player

                              These are the main reasons we are better without him

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                              • Kenneth
                                Pond Scum
                                • May 2007
                                • 65638

                                #600
                                he does have plenty of quality but these issues limit his suitability for us and it wouldn't be a good use of 70-100m quid.
                                Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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