Philippe Coutinho Post-LFC

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  • Mark79
    Paisley
    • Jun 2008
    • 11006

    #751
    Originally posted by Fredo
    Tell Mané, Salah or Firmino they will be rotated and will be playing only 30 games.
    Over 30, they could actually still start close to 40 even with rotation. Then they have internationals too. That's not enough football in one season?
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    • Lecter
      Nicked from elsewhere
      • Jul 2006
      • 18261

      #752
      Originally posted by labourRed
      Financial.

      It's a big loan fee. As Klopp said, massive, massive money. And for whatever reason, that's not happening this summer.

      Also factor in FSG policy on transfer clearly is buy young sell for profit later. Coutinho is 27 and that cycle has ended (maybe earlier than ideal) but I can understand the pass nevertheless.

      That said in the short term I think he'd work well given he knows our game, players etc. So I'm in the pro camp despite it being a nonrunner.
      £21m loan fee plus €290K per week wages its a lot of money
      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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      • Fivex
        The Wisp
        • Nov 2006
        • 23867

        #753
        Wonder if they’re trying to shaft us and get around the clauses. Loan him out for £20m a season and let him run his contract down that way, then they don’t need to pay us the sell-on.
        Hello mert.

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        • labourRed
          Paisley
          • Jun 2015
          • 13454

          #754
          Originally posted by Lecter
          £21m loan fee plus €290K per week wages its a lot of money
          I think the loan fee covers the wages. Parent company pays the player as usual but loan fee covers that. Same for Wilson.

          That's how I understand it anyway.

          No one is paying 36m for Coutinho for a year with no buy clause written in stone, surely.

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          • Lecter
            Nicked from elsewhere
            • Jul 2006
            • 18261

            #755
            Originally posted by labourRed
            I think the loan fee covers the wages. Parent company pays the player as usual but loan fee covers that. Same for Wilson.

            That's how I understand it anyway.

            No one is paying 36m for Coutinho for a year with no buy clause written in stone, surely.
            No its loan fee plus the wages, any buy clause is on top of that

            Barcelona are offloading him to finance a move for Neymar hence their high demands
            Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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            • Fredo
              Not to be taken seriously
              • Aug 2010
              • 35173

              #756
              Originally posted by The_weatherman
              I really hope your wrong but I tend to agree, at least one top player to freshen up the squad, and I don't think Fredo has ever been proven right with his optimism bouts. Which got me a bit worried.
              We won the CL ffs, when a lot of people were complaining that we were not playing well (including myself) at the start of the season.

              The optimism is warranted. We almost won the league and we won the European Cup.
              Are we winning?

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              • Norbs
                Big Girl's Blouse
                • Jun 2007
                • 42645

                #757
                Originally posted by Lecter
                £21m loan fee plus €290K per week wages its a lot of money
                £35m for one season

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                • Norbs
                  Big Girl's Blouse
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 42645

                  #758
                  Originally posted by Fredo
                  Tell Mané, Salah or Firmino they will be rotated and will be playing only 30 games.
                  Who's the boss again?

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                  • Lecter
                    Nicked from elsewhere
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 18261

                    #759
                    Originally posted by Fredo
                    We won the CL ffs, when a lot of people were complaining that we were not playing well (including myself) at the start of the season.

                    The optimism is warranted. We almost won the league and we won the European Cup.
                    History should tell you to be cautious. How often do teams get huge points totals in successive years (other than City)

                    Also the assumption here is that every other team hasnt made additions (like LFC) now its not impossible for us to do a Spurs and improve further without additions but for me its unlikely

                    I fully expect our points total to be lower than last year
                    Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                    • poorscousertommy
                      Dalglish
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 3836

                      #760
                      Originally posted by Lecter
                      No its loan fee plus the wages, any buy clause is on top of that

                      Barcelona are offloading him to finance a move for Neymar hence their high demands
                      I was reading that 21m covers the wages too. Something like £11m loan fee and £10m wages.

                      Haven't got a link to hand but that's what I read.

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                      • Norbs
                        Big Girl's Blouse
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 42645

                        #761
                        Still a lot and ****housery by them if it reduces what they would pay us in performance bonuses

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                        • labourRed
                          Paisley
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 13454

                          #762
                          Originally posted by Lecter
                          No its loan fee plus the wages, any buy clause is on top of that

                          Barcelona are offloading him to finance a move for Neymar hence their high demands
                          They can demand what they like but if that's true there'll be a short list of **** all that'll be interested in those numbers.

                          It's not like he's flying at the moment either.

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                          • Norbs
                            Big Girl's Blouse
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 42645

                            #763
                            Really surprised Spurs are in for him knowing well they'll **** their wage structure for a short term gain. He suits their style of play even less than ours

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                            • Tribute
                              Paisley
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 10150

                              #764
                              Can see Coutinho staying at Barca with those crazy loan prices bandied about... looks like him and Bale can go and play golf every week for the entirety of next season.

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                              • kingfunk
                                Doesnt subscribe to Craig's conspiracy theories!
                                • May 2008
                                • 11755

                                #765
                                Originally posted by Tribute
                                Can see Coutinho staying at Barca with those crazy loan prices bandied about... looks like him and Bale can go and play golf every week for the entirety of next season.
                                Apparently he has rejected spurs, will only move to us in the PL. £60m bid tomorrow?!

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