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    Originally posted by peekay View Post
    Pep was not a top manager when he was appointed. He was a promising B team coach. Tito Villanova never had a top managerial appointment. Luis Enrique was also not a success at his previous job before he got the Barca appointment.
    You could say a little bit like an English club based in the North West during the 80's.

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      Ferguson had won stuff with Aberdeen though, if that's who you mean

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        Originally posted by Norbs View Post
        Ferguson had won stuff with Aberdeen though, if that's who you mean

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          Originally posted by Norbs View Post
          Ferguson had won stuff with Aberdeen though, if that's who you mean


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            Originally posted by Norbs View Post
            Ferguson had won stuff with Aberdeen though, if that's who you mean
            And would have won nothing if they had adopted Barca's approach to hiring and firing.
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              Originally posted by Bloodraven View Post
              OK, so you mean Kenny yeah?

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                Originally posted by Bloodraven View Post
                You could say a little bit like an English club based in the North West during the 80's.
                I am not questioning that strategy. A lot of times it makes sense and when it works it adds that extra layer of romance to the win.
                They have now gone for Koeman mainly due to the fact that he is a Barca legend.

                And to be fair, until Houllier, we did try for the boot room connection.

                Also my post was arguing against Messi's influence on the choice of managers. Maybe he does but Barca have long tradition of employing managers with Catalan or Dutch connection even before Messi was there.
                Last edited by peekay; 20-08-20, 08:20 PM.

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                  Originally posted by peekay View Post
                  I am not questioning that strategy. A lot of times it makes sense and when it works it adds that extra layer of romance to the win.
                  They have now gone for Koeman mainly due to the fact that he is a Barca legend.

                  And to be fair, until Houllier, we did try for the boot room connection.

                  Also my post was arguing against Messi's influence on the choice of managers. Maybe he does but Barca have long tradition of employing managers with Catalan or Dutch connection even before Messi was there.
                  It depends on how much of what we read is true. I don't doubt that Messi is consulted about all of the proposed transfers and even managerial appointments though. For me, that approach is dangerous..... footballers should play football. When he is signing a contract extension, then it is reasonable to ask about the clubs ambition, but he shouldn't be part of the decision making process.

                  The have 3 of the top 6 or 7 most expensive signings in football history against Bayern. Dembele and Grizzmann were on the bench - Dembele not even getting on the pitch. The other, came off the bench for the opposition, scored a few and assisted another.

                  They need to start again I think. And if they can get some £££ for Messi, this is possibly their last opportunity.

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                    Originally posted by frank the tank View Post
                    It depends on how much of what we read is true. I don't doubt that Messi is consulted about all of the proposed transfers and even managerial appointments though. For me, that approach is dangerous..... footballers should play football. When he is signing a contract extension, then it is reasonable to ask about the clubs ambition, but he shouldn't be part of the decision making process.

                    The have 3 of the top 6 or 7 most expensive signings in football history against Bayern. Dembele and Grizzmann were on the bench - Dembele not even getting on the pitch. The other, came off the bench for the opposition, scored a few and assisted another.

                    They need to start again I think. And if they can get some £££ for Messi, this is possibly their last opportunity.
                    700m Euros in debt. 75% of turnover wages. Nuff said. With the wrath of Messi looming over important decisions for the club. It is a recipe for disaster.

                    Sometimes to grow, you have to kill your darlings. (that's why I deleted my Twitter account 5 minutes ago Didn't realise how much it was hindering where I want to go! No more social media for me!)

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                      Not sure how true but wow


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                        Originally posted by Deano View Post
                        €70m a year for Messi WTF.? Never thought it’d be that high
                        Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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                          I'd be suspicious of the accuracy of an article claiming a man on £500,000 per week is on €70,000,000 a year
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                            It mentions how much Messi is paid about 5 or 6 times. A well written article there.
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                              How much do we get if Bayern win tonight?

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