Thiago Alcantara

[labourRed]

Have a look at his numbers again today, I bet he’s done far more than both Gini and Curtis put together.. he’s being thrown into Hendo/Fab’s role and again, being played out of position like the makeshift CBs

I haven't looked at the stats but the eye says the same.

People were crying out for Keita as well. Thaigo would double Keita's number in every single game.

[Tribute]

I haven't looked at the stats but the eye says the same.

People were crying out for Keita as well. Thaigo would double Keita's number in every single game.

He’s getting a rough ride by some but I actually think he’s done pretty well considering the team has completely gone to ****. He’s put a shift in and yes, he does like a lunge and that’s not great - but he reads the game better than most and picks out a pass, sometimes forward heaven forbid... and that’s more than others with their 360 degree turns every single time they touch the ball... midfield is only ****ed because defence is ****ed. Front three are happily misfiring of their own volition sadly...

[Kenneth]

That is clearly all true, but sometimes players come in and make a struggling team better. Bruno Fernandes for example. Would have been ace for Thiago to have a similar impact, but not reasonable to expect it.

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That is clearly all true, but sometimes players come in and make a struggling team better. Bruno Fernandes for example. Would have been ace for Thiago to have a similar impact, but not reasonable to expect it.

He has Fred and McTominay doing most of the graft for him... but he’s still got impressive stats for pressing and tackling back... same as Thiago. He just scores all their penalties and free kicks...

[Doc_Piptorious]

Nah. He's doing work that isn't normally his forte and it shows. He'd be a different player with Hendo and Fabinho doing the heavy lifting beside him.

Nail on the head. We have one of the best playmakers in the game and he is pretty much trying to play the role of a CDM at present.

We also happen to have one of the best CDMs in the game but we have him at CB.

Then we have Henderson who has grown to be a very underrated but high quality CM who can do the box to box role to a high level and we also have him playing at CB.

And people wonder why we look sluggish slow and disjointed in the centre.

Who I would be asking more questions about at present than Thiago is Milner and Wijnaldum. Both are well versed in our set up, both know how we like to play in the centre, but both seem to be playing like they are the new players in the team and not the experienced Liverpool players both are.

[Tribute]

Nail on the head. We have one of the best playmakers in the game and he is pretty much trying to play the role of a CDM at present.

We also happen to have one of the best CDMs in the game but we have him at CB.

Then we have Henderson who has grown to be a very underrated but high quality CM who can do the box to box role to a high level and we also have him playing at CB.

And people wonder why we look sluggish slow and disjointed in the centre.

Who I would be asking more questions about at present than Thiago is Milner and Wijnaldum. Both are well versed in our set up, both know how we like to play in the centre, but both seem to be playing like they are the new players in the team and not the experienced Liverpool players both are.

it's as if playing players out of position is going to work out just fine every game...

[Irishnev]

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Thiago is not the problem - I can’t wait for him to play in the proper midfield and defence behind him with hopefully a front 3 in form

[Doc_Piptorious]

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Thiago is not the problem - I can’t wait for him to play in the proper midfield and defence behind him with hopefully a front 3 in form

And look where Wijnaldum is on it. Quite telling that given our current disjointed play in the middle.


Thiago is miles ahead of everyone, but Henderson scores quite well on there too

[Irishnev]

And look where Wijnaldum is on it. Quite telling that given our current disjointed play in the middle.


Thiago is miles ahead of everyone, but Henderson scores quite well on there too

Gini is the facilitator in our midfield - keep the ball and give to others. Good to see Jones figuring high there also.

I think we will tear it up next season - VVD back, new partner in situ, Thiago acclimatised, Fab, Hendo and fit Naby in midfield, Jones a year older, Jota and a new forward - squad with a point to prove


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Maybe no Champions League

[Buzzo]

Gini is the facilitator in our midfield - keep the ball and give to others. Good to see Jones figuring high there also.

I think we will tear it up next season - VVD back, new partner in situ, Thiago acclimatised, Fab, Hendo and fit Naby in midfield, Jones a year older, Jota and a new forward - squad with a point to prove


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Maybe no Champions League

Nah, you automatically get CL as the holders of the trophy

[Doc_Piptorious]

Gini is the facilitator in our midfield - keep the ball and give to others. Good to see Jones figuring high there also.

I think we will tear it up next season - VVD back, new partner in situ, Thiago acclimatised, Fab, Hendo and fit Naby in midfield, Jones a year older, Jota and a new forward - squad with a point to prove


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Maybe no Champions League

Except he is not doing that very well as the second half of that pivot role is to be able to distribute the ball well after holding onto it. Gini over the past few games is not really doing any part of that role well. He is not winning balls, he is not keeping the ball as well as we know he can, and he certainly is not finding other players with positive passes either too often. The eye test as well as stats back that up.

Whereas Thiago is going the other way and the eye tests plus stats are backing up that he is being quite effective in the DM role and also being more proactive in terms of finding his teammates ahead of him.


Wish I had your confidence about a fit Naby for any season tbh. I rate him so highly as a player but for whatever reason he and a number of others just cannot replicate for us their fitness/availability levels at prior clubs.


If we had our current squad with every single senior player fully fit going into the pre season this coming summer, I would have no confidence of them all being fit come the first league game in August.

[Irishnev]

Except he is not doing that very well as the second half of that pivot role is to be able to distribute the ball well after holding onto it. Gini over the past few games is not really doing any part of that role well. He is not winning balls, he is not keeping the ball as well as we know he can, and he certainly is not finding other players with positive passes either too often. The eye test as well as stats back that up.

Whereas Thiago is going the other way and the eye tests plus stats are backing up that he is being quite effective in the DM role and also being more proactive in terms of finding his teammates ahead of him.


Wish I had your confidence about a fit Naby for any season tbh. I rate him so highly as a player but for whatever reason he and a number of others just cannot replicate for us their fitness/availability levels at prior clubs.


If we had our current squad with every single senior player fully fit going into the pre season this coming summer, I would have no confidence of them all being fit come the first league game in August.

I still think he will be the proverbial “like a new signing” next season - if he stays fit after his rehabilitation then he will add a lot to our midfield

[Doc_Piptorious]

I still think he will be the proverbial “like a new signing” next season - if he stays fit after his rehabilitation then he will add a lot to our midfield

I am the last two seasons saying he is about to have a massive season. Think I am at the point that I will just see him as one of a growing list of players that we see little off over the course of a season, and hopefully I get a pleasant surprise by being proven wrong.

[Kenneth]

More of a liability with his rashness than a benefit so far.

[danperkins]

Have to say I'm pretty shocked at how bad he's been. I thought Barnes dived by Thiago always seems to leave a foot in. Painfully slow in possession and doing **** all with it. Gobsmacked at how poor he has been to be honest.