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    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
    What are you on about? I wanted a CB in the summer as did so many or at the start of the Jan window when we knew we were up ****s creek.... not the last day. You've been arguing against this for months and the facts are there that we gambled in two windows and it have massively backfired. I said months ago the owners not spending short term could impact massively long term even if covid has ****ed things. Short term pain for long term gain, now we are in real trouble and we may very feel feel the knock on effects off not qualifying for the champs league next season.
    Sorry, the centre back quote was from the Kabak thread, no clue why I posted it here.

    Thiago is a good player but in a team not winning at the moment. So I'd wait until next year to judge him.
    Are we winning?

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      Originally posted by danperkins View Post
      Proven class player, been pretty ****. Fair to say?
      He's obviously world class but I had no idea he was so stupid and rash in the tackle. That has taken me aback. Otherwise he's arrived, got covid, then got a serious injury, and when he came back into the side he came into a decimated and dysfunctional team. He's been disappointing, but he's not the problem.
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        Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
        He's obviously world class but I had no idea he was so stupid and rash in the tackle. That has taken me aback. Otherwise he's arrived, got covid, then got a serious injury, and when he came back into the side he came into a decimated and dysfunctional team. He's been disappointing, but he's not the problem.
        I agree. Nobody is judging him, we know he is a worldie and circumstances have been far from ideal but equally we are allowed to be disappointed with him considering how accomplished a tackler and in possession we know he is. He literally is one of the best midfielders in world football so he is held to higher standards than your average baller.

        The rash tackling is an issue and maybe that has got to do with the pace of the league or him being off the pace physically. Whatever it is, it's not good viewing and is costing us but absolutely we have far great issues than Thiago that's for sure.

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          Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
          He's obviously world class but I had no idea he was so stupid and rash in the tackle. That has taken me aback. Otherwise he's arrived, got covid, then got a serious injury, and when he came back into the side he came into a decimated and dysfunctional team. He's been disappointing, but he's not the problem.
          And he didn’t train all week - Milner injury and in he goes rusty as ****. I’ll judge him when he is fit and playing with a proper side around him

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            i am happy to drive him back to Munich, ask for a refund & take the 10day quarantine & £1700 bill on my return.

            Its been a long time since i was so disappointed in a liverpool player, considering his reputation before he arrived.

            Slow, ponderous, rash tackles, poor distribution; simply does not suit us at all

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              Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
              And he didn’t train all week - Milner injury and in he goes rusty as ****. I’ll judge him when he is fit and playing with a proper side around him


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                Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                And he didn’t train all week - Milner injury and in he goes rusty as ****. I’ll judge him when he is fit and playing with a proper side around him
                That's a fair point
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                  He's ****ing ****. But at least he's on the pitch and ****ing ****.
                  Was muß, das muß.

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                    Premature song syndrome

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                      He hasn't had the crowd cheer his name yet. Feel sorry for all new arrival at clubs.
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                        Thiago has been poor out of possession and also when in possession and put under pressure. So far. I think he'll come good but not this season. My heart sank when he came on and I kept willing him under my breath (1) not to jump in and (2) to be more progressive. Currently we have only five fit midfielders not playing in defence (Gini, Curtis, Thiago, Shaq and the Ox) and I'd want only two of them (Gini and Curtis) in my starting line up right now.

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                          He’s not been ****, just below what we were all expecting from him.

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                            He could do with a few assists or pre assists and less wreck less tackling.
                            Modifying post.

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                              Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                              He could do with a few assists or pre assists and less wreck less tackling.

                              Not sure where the rash tackling has come from with him tbh. Maybe his timing is a bit off or something but is was never as obvious as now.


                              He is not a player I would be expecting to rack up good goal or assist numbers either. He will be more like an Alonso figure for us. A string puller when he has movement around him that sets others up for the assist or pre assist like Alonso used to.

                              But if he keeps playing as a DM and in a spoiling role, then we are not going to see that, especially when passes seem to be bouncing off of our attacking players and we have little to no movement in the centre.

                              Did think Leicester were very clever in how they dealt with him yesterday. Anytime a long pass went towards Thiago, Ndidi plus which other Leicester CM was closest made a beeline for Thiago over and over. They kept putting two close to him, Ndidi almost always being one of the two and were content to leave their third CM as cover against our two other CMs.

                              I don't always associate Brendan with getting midfield tactics that spot on, but yesterday he pulled of a few nice switches. That changing to and from a diamond in the centre was a recurring thing with them as well, especially in the second half. They seemed to figure that we were not a threat out wide and would go to a diamond in the middle, overloading the centre when they did so.

                              Every time they did the overload thing it seemed to be giving them one to two extra runners from deep and we seemed to be tracking the ball and not the men when that happened.
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                                He's been a **** Paul Scholes so far. He's a walking yellow card. Absolutely lunging into daft tackles all game long. Surely he's been told to curb it and stay on his feet a bit more?

                                His unreal cameo against Chelsea seems like a dream now. I know they were down to 10 men but he glided around majestically. Now he always looks a couple of yards short of the pace of the game.

                                I think he perfectly sums up the way our season has gone. I do feel sympathy for him, we're currently nothing like the team he thought he as joining!

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