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    Selling 1 of them will have an impact though and we’ll be back to where we were, unless we have someone within the ranks that can come in and replace them. We all know that Taki doesn’t make a Bobby etc so I’d make all of them happy and replace them slowly over the next few years. I mean, they’re all just 30 so have a few years left for sure.
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      Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
      There can't be any doubt now - surely - that he's unequivocally ahead of Firmino. Tbh I think Bobby might go this summer.
      Yeah, much like Lucas went to a slower league, i think Firmino could benefit by moving on for his final contract.

      It won't be much of a transfer fee but will free up a good £6m off the wage bill for the next gen.

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        I dont think Bobby is anywhere near his best. He provides very little threat these days. Jota is on another level. He presses and provides danger in the box, and seems to be a bit more mobile. A better choice for the centre position.

        I like Firmino, but we have to be honest about the value we are getting. We cannot afford sentimentality if we are to challange City. He has 7 goals and assists in the league, and I think 4 of them came in one game against Watford.
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          Bobby F definitely looks like 5th choice now.
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            Given that Bobby doesn't play in the Sadio/Mo role, he is only really vying with Jota for a position, so whilst he might be second choice there, he will still get plenty of game time.

            Diaz, Mo and Mane will be the wider players and again, it gives us the chance to rest tired legs without a drop-off in quality.

            Why are we so keen to sell players the minute we have options?

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              Originally posted by Scratch View Post
              Given that Bobby doesn't play in the Sadio/Mo role, he is only really vying with Jota for a position, so whilst he might be second choice there, he will still get plenty of game time.

              Diaz, Mo and Mane will be the wider players and again, it gives us the chance to rest tired legs without a drop-off in quality.

              Why are we so keen to sell players the minute we have options?
              It’s more that 3 of them are out of contract in 2023. Do all 3 of the famous front 3 get new deals going into their 30s? Do we just get 1 more season out of Mane or Bobby then let them go?
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                Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                Why are we so keen to sell players the minute we have options?
                Its a question of resources. Are we getting value from Firminos wages? Could another player coming in do as a good a job or better on a lower wage? Could his wages be rolled into Mo's contract?
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                  Originally posted by Pepe79 View Post
                  It’s more that 3 of them are out of contract in 2023. Do all 3 of the famous front 3 get new deals going into their 30s? Do we just get 1 more season out of Mane or Bobby then let them go?
                  Originally posted by Charly View Post
                  Its a question of resources. Are we getting value from Firminos wages? Could another player coming in do as a good a job or better on a lower wage? Could his wages be rolled into Mo's contract?
                  Yeah, sadly no matter what we think all good things come to an end.

                  FSG realistically are not going to renew Mane, Salah and Bobby with improved contracts. As Meat said, 2/3 ain't bad.

                  We also need to think about the future... and thankfully with Jota and Diaz we are much better placed.

                  Mane and Salah i could see playing to a very high level until 35 (particularly Salah) so we could very well keep them both.

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                    Originally posted by Scratch View Post
                    Given that Bobby doesn't play in the Sadio/Mo role, he is only really vying with Jota for a position, so whilst he might be second choice there, he will still get plenty of game time.

                    Diaz, Mo and Mane will be the wider players and again, it gives us the chance to rest tired legs without a drop-off in quality.

                    Why are we so keen to sell players the minute we have options?
                    Bobby doesn't play out wide but both Mane and Salah can play through the middle.

                    Could easily see a front three of Diaz - Salah - Mane doing a team major damage. Or Jota - Mane - Salah...
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                      Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                      There can't be any doubt now - surely - that he's unequivocally ahead of Firmino. Tbh I think Bobby might go this summer.
                      He was ahead of Firmino for me over the last 18 months but I kept getting lambasted for suggesting Firmino wasn't good enough for a starting berth anymore.

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                        We're only hanging on to Bobby cos of he boss song
                        removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                        too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                          Dont forget Elliot. He's looking super good. Also Carvalho coming in should be interesting.
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                            At the moment it feels like the front three is likely to be Mane Jota and Salah, with Mané's Place potentially under threat from Diaz.

                            I don't think Bobby will get a new deal, I think he will probably leave in the summer. I don't think we can afford to let 2 of the main 5 leave this summer, but wouldn't be surprised if we let Mané's contract run down and let him leave on a free in a year's time (I hope I am wrong on this but it feels where we are heading) leaving the next 18 months for Diaz to fully transition into the side and Carvalho to develop somewhat (assuming we sign him).

                            All this is obviously dependent on Salah signing a new contract, if he doesn't that might change things.
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                              I could see us selling Mane and letting Bobby’s contract run more than the other way around.

                              We have more strength in depth in Mane’s position than we do in Bobby’s. Mane would likely have more takers and would bring in more money for us than Bobby too.

                              There’s also Origi and Taki’s potential departures to add in as well.
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                                Yeah can see Bobby leaving alright, been way off his bet for at least 18 months now. Would hate to lose Mane but we do have Jota and Diaz primed for his position. Priority is keeping Salah.

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