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    Originally posted by Pablo View Post
    The huge difference for him will be not playing alongside top class players. Imagine swapping Virgil Van Dijk for Gary Cahill

    I really hope he does well, but this is a move that will show his real level.
    Has Nat ever played alongside VVD.
    Nat has looked decent playing alongside williams and others, but he wasnt being "carried" by more "complete" centre backs.

    He must be very rusty given his lack of game time, hopefully he will get his **** together and prove his worth
    removing all the weak links makes us stronger

    too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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      He played amazing for us for almost half a season with little play before. Plays a bad game in another team, automatically hes rubbish and cant do a job for us. Clearly everyones forgotten he actually DID do a job for us. A bloody good job. And without VVD next to him to carry him like Gomez gets carried. Thats not a fluke performance. He's quality and it'll start showing once he gets his footing again.

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        Originally posted by baitman View Post
        Has Nat ever played alongside VVD.
        Nat has looked decent playing alongside williams and others, but he wasnt being "carried" by more "complete" centre backs.

        He must be very rusty given his lack of game time, hopefully he will get his **** together and prove his worth

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          Originally posted by vlahka View Post
          He played amazing for us for almost half a season with little play before. Plays a bad game in another team, automatically hes rubbish and cant do a job for us. Clearly everyones forgotten he actually DID do a job for us. A bloody good job. And without VVD next to him to carry him like Gomez gets carried. Thats not a fluke performance. He's quality and it'll start showing once he gets his footing again.

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            Originally posted by Norbs View Post
            Norbs is clearly on team Nat

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              Originally posted by vlahka View Post
              He played amazing for us for almost half a season with little play before. Plays a bad game in another team, automatically hes rubbish and cant do a job for us. Clearly everyones forgotten he actually DID do a job for us. A bloody good job. And without VVD next to him to carry him like Gomez gets carried. Thats not a fluke performance. He's quality and it'll start showing once he gets his footing again.
              Like Gomez gets carried

              You lament other fans fickleness / poor memory but if you think that about joe Gomez, it’s the same thing
              Y.N.W.A!!!!!!

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                Surely is stock cannot be much higher. He played half a season for us and did really well, Yet not one premier club came in for him?

                I have never heard a defender be called a M.O.T.D player as its normally given to attackers doing fancy bits and not much else. Maybe those thumping headers & Crunching tackles hide other defincies needed at the very top level.
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                Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

                Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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                  Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                  Norbs is clearly on team Nat
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                  i just dont think he's a bad backup

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                    Originally posted by Norbs View Post
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                    i just dont think he's a bad backup
                    Just not for us

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                      Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious View Post

                      Might just be a Skrtel type debut...

                      Now you are taking the ****ing piss!!!
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                        Originally posted by Charly View Post
                        Now you are taking the ****ing piss!!!
                        Not as bad as Jonathan Woodgate…..

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                          Originally posted by Charly View Post
                          Now you are taking the ****ing piss!!!
                          Actually not really. Well not totally.

                          Skrtel's first start was a cup game against a lower league club I think, and in it he looked like he had never seen a football before let alone having played with a football team.


                          So not dissimilar to the debut Phillips had for Bournemouth.


                          Not saying Phillips will go on to be as amazing as Skrtel was, but he cannot really have as bad a game again, could he?
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                            Originally posted by Corndog View Post
                            Like Gomez gets carried

                            You lament other fans fickleness / poor memory but if you think that about joe Gomez, it’s the same thing
                            Oh please. How many years has he been with us and people have commented on his low performance. Especially whenever he comes back from his frequent injury spells hes not very good for a run of games. He's only ever looked solid with VVD beside him. Nat came into the team with hardly any game time, paired up with another young inexperienced defender, and won MOTM and got us into CL. Its bizarre how undervalued some people here see him as.

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                              Originally posted by vlahka View Post
                              Oh please. How many years has he been with us and people have commented on his low performance. Especially whenever he comes back from his frequent injury spells hes not very good for a run of games. He's only ever looked solid with VVD beside him. Nat came into the team with hardly any game time, paired up with another young inexperienced defender, and won MOTM and got us into CL. Its bizarre how undervalued some people here see him as.
                              When Nat and Rhys were in the team, the other players had to play differently to make up for the lack of penetration in their passing and their lack of pace, turning speed and (in Rhys' case) anticipation. That affected for eg Trent and Robbo. None of that is true for Gomez.

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                                Gomez had 9 CL appearances the year we won it, and 28 PL appearances the year we won it. There's surely no argument over his ability to perform in what is one of the best teams in the world, and arguably the best in our history (the caveat being; when fit).

                                What Phillips did was fantastic and I like him as a player, but whether we like it or not, the manager seems to have him as 5th in the pecking order. Do we know whether he got the move purely because he wants to be playing each week? Would seem logical
                                Sack swinging like Dub-D40 on a door hinge

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