Who Is Your Favourite 5 Boxers Of All Time?

[SouthAfricaRed]

In no Specific order

Sugar Ray Robinson
Sugar Ray Leonard
Joe Louis
Muhammed Ali
Archie Moore

IMO the only boxer to threaten inclusion in this list since Ray Leonard is Floyd Mayweather. He's comfortably beaten everyone he's faced, but sadly due to the quality of his era, we will never know how good he really is

[Doc_Piptorious]

In no Specific order

Sugar Ray Robinson
Sugar Ray Leonard
Joe Louis
Muhammed Ali
Archie Moore

IMO the only boxer to threaten inclusion in this list since Ray Leonard is Floyd Mayweather. He's comfortably beaten everyone he's faced, but sadly due to the quality of his era, we will never know how good he really is

Mayweather would come close to an all time top 15 pound for pound list methinks. If one looks through the list of top fighters that he has met over the last 8 years, especially the amount of fighters who were regarded as world class and in their peak, the fact that none of them actually looked to be troubling him is the clearest indication of how good he is. Nobody has even made the guy dig deep or get into top gear. I fear that he will never be acknowledged for being as naturally gifted and talented as he is, and if he stays in the games beyond his time, his legacy may become as tarnished as Roy Jones Jnr's has. Most people have forgotten how good Jones was and how far ahead of the rest of his era the man was, and instead concentrate on the losses in his later career.


Mayweather has met the best that have been out there, and now looks to be doing so again with his apparent willingness to meet Hatton. He has been a fighting champion, but his brashness and total commitment to doing things his way, have alienated him to a large degree from public affection, and worse, from public respect.

[bazza76]

Mayweather would come close to an all time top 15 pound for pound list methinks. If one looks through the list of top fighters that he has met over the last 8 years, especially the amount of fighters who were regarded as world class and in their peak, the fact that none of them actually looked to be troubling him is the clearest indication of how good he is. Nobody has even made the guy dig deep or get into top gear. I fear that he will never be acknowledged for being as naturally gifted and talented as he is, and if he stays in the games beyond his time, his legacy may become as tarnished as Roy Jones Jnr's has. Most people have forgotten how good Jones was and how far ahead of the rest of his era the man was, and instead concentrate on the losses in his later career.


Mayweather has met the best that have been out there, and now looks to be doing so again with his apparent willingness to meet Hatton. He has been a fighting champion, but his brashness and total commitment to doing things his way, have alienated him to a large degree from public affection, and worse, from public respect.

spot on

[Imy]

Mayweather would come close to an all time top 15 pound for pound list methinks. If one looks through the list of top fighters that he has met over the last 8 years, especially the amount of fighters who were regarded as world class and in their peak, the fact that none of them actually looked to be troubling him is the clearest indication of how good he is. Nobody has even made the guy dig deep or get into top gear. I fear that he will never be acknowledged for being as naturally gifted and talented as he is, and if he stays in the games beyond his time, his legacy may become as tarnished as Roy Jones Jnr's has. Most people have forgotten how good Jones was and how far ahead of the rest of his era the man was, and instead concentrate on the losses in his later career.


Mayweather has met the best that have been out there, and now looks to be doing so again with his apparent willingness to meet Hatton. He has been a fighting champion, but his brashness and total commitment to doing things his way, have alienated him to a large degree from public affection, and worse, from public respect.

The 'problem' with Mayweather is he only does enough to win, in that he fights in a defensive - counter offensive way (if you get my drift). The De La Hoya fight was just one of the fights where he did enough to win.

Yes this a clever tactic, as boxer i am sure you don't want to get your arse kicked and do enough to earn the win/belt plus the £ms.

But as a boxing fan i love to watch a 'tear up' guys going out there, giving it there all, guys like Nigel Benn, Marvin Haggler, Mike Tyson (befoe Jail), Manny Pacquiao. I want entertainment.

Why else watch football/boxing instead of Chess?

[tommyg]

tyson pre-jail with his original crew (so before don king) = the best boxer of all time. would DESTROY ali

[Doc_Piptorious]

tyson pre-jail with his original crew (so before don king) = the best boxer of all time. would DESTROY ali

I could understand, but not agree with, an argument for Tyson being the best heavyweight boxer of all time, but the best boxer, pound for pound, of all time? Not even in the top 15.


Ali tops a lot of lists because of the way he transcended the sport, as well as having amazing courage and skill. But I don't think even Ali could hope to be the best pound for pounder of all time. The best pound for pounders of all time would probably be found between the divisions of Welterweight and Super middleweight.

[Doc_Piptorious]

The 'problem' with Mayweather is he only does enough to win, in that he fights in a defensive - counter offensive way (if you get my drift). The De La Hoya fight was just one of the fights where he did enough to win.

Yes this a clever tactic, as boxer i am sure you don't want to get your arse kicked and do enough to earn the win/belt plus the £ms.

But as a boxing fan i love to watch a 'tear up' guys going out there, giving it there all, guys like Nigel Benn, Marvin Haggler, Mike Tyson (befoe Jail), Manny Pacquiao. I want entertainment.

Why else watch football/boxing instead of Chess?

That is the rub though, he only does enough to win, imho, because there is nobody good enough to force him to do otherwise. Why should he lead with his chin just to give the other guy a chance? I think everyone loves the warriors in the sport. But it is more than just a tactic, if that is all that it was, then any fighter would be able to learn it and use it. Defensive fighting at his level is a very difficult thing to perfect, and even harder to execute when you have another man trying to spark you.

I prefer the warriors from an excitement point of view, and also at a primal level, but I have the upmost respect for a defensive fighter who has perfected his craft to the level at which Mayweather has. He is not a fighter for the mainstream fan or the general public, that is for sure, but he is one for the purists who watch and admire his technique, balance, craft and guile. Certain fighters have found themselves at the end of their careers without quite getting the recognition they may have deserved during their fighting time, be it for having a supposed dearth of talent during their era, be it for not capturing public imagination and the public's hearts or for whatever reason, but Fighters like Larry Holmes and Roy Jones jnr fall into this group for me, people say they were good, really good, maybe almost great, but not great, and I think Mayweather will end up with a similar legacy to those fighters.

[kemm1]

1. Mike 'The Body Snatcher' McCallum - Probably the most underrated boxer of all time. He was possibly the most technically gifted body puncher of my lifetime and he also had a hell of a chin with great overall technique. A little known fact is Hagler, Hearns and Sugar Ray all turned down the opportunity to fight him.

2. Larry Holmes - In his prime the complete fighter and smooth operator- ZERO weakness. Fantastic had and great movement, strong chin and has a knockout punch when needed.

3. Julio Cesar Chavez - The heart of a lion plus great technical ability. Just like Holmes no weaknesses, but not nearly as smooth. Strong chin, clubbing punches, very good defense.

4. Marvin Hagler - The ultimate predator and the definition of grinding down and opponent. HE could probably walk through a mule kick to the chin then callously break down any opponent before a usual 8 to 10 round KO.

5. Felix Trinidad - His lack of technique got exposed against Hopkins but he is excitement personified with the heart of a lion. Fantastic left hook and great attacking punch combinations if he's allowed to set his feet.

[Darth Marty]

I think some people think its fashionable to say stuff like " he transcends the sport" " he is a fantastic fighter but chooses to do just enough..."

Bull****, the last time I looked Boxing was about punching people and trying to knock people out...Mayweather, whilst incredibly skilled is nowhere near the top 10 great fighters.
Very very good, undoubtedly, great....no chance.

But of course thats my opinion and is meant in no way to be disrespectful to other members who think mayweather isnt a pussy

[Red Chilli]

This is favourite boxers isn't it, not best boxers.

[Darth Marty]

This is favourite boxers isn't it, not best boxers.

Fair enough...just couldnt resist a dig

[Red Chilli]

Fair enough...just couldnt resist a dig

Actually it wasn't aimed at you It was a general comment. The reason I picked Ali was becuase he was great in so many ways and did transcend the sport. The reason I picked McGuigan is because I loved watching his fights
It wasn't because I think they are in the top 5 boxers of all time.

[Darth Marty]

Oh, the embarassment......ha ha ha, ok. Ill go now then.....

[Red Chilli]

Oh, the embarassment......ha ha ha, ok. Ill go now then.....

Eh?

I'm not with you

[Darth Marty]

Actually it wasn't aimed at you It was a general comment. The reason I picked Ali was becuase he was great in so many ways and did transcend the sport. The reason I picked McGuigan is because I loved watching his fights
It wasn't because I think they are in the top 5 boxers of all time.

was just explaining how embarrased i was to reply to a post that wasnt actually aimed at me.....never mind.....it gets worse every time you have to explain it