Drugs in sport

[Neil Young]

You ever tried getting a rock on after a night on the charlie? Viagra saves the day/night

Hmm, why did Robert Palmer die of a heart attack I wonder.

I advise you to stop doing it by the time you reach your fifties, Paul.

[paulcooper4]

Hmm, why did Robert Palmer die of a heart attack I wonder.

I advise you to stop doing it by the time you reach your fifties, Paul.

Did you pack it in before you hit your fifties mate?

[narmour]

Is everyone agreed that it is a bad thing or do some people feel that we should look to have the best spectacle, the fastest runner/cyclists, highest jumpers or whatever?

Your taking the piss right?

Drugs in sport is cheating and that's that.

[Fivex]

I say the time has come for us to have The Drug Enhanced Olympics, imagine Cocaine Boxing or Speed Walking !!

[Neil Young]

Did you pack it in before you hit your fifties mate?

I know I was asking for that but there's no need to oblige, young man.

[Neil Young]

Congratulations.

[AFII]

well if you legalised drugs in sport then the only way a sportsperson could ever prosper is by forcing tons of **** into their bodies.

no doubt every parent would then dread having a sporty son or daughter.

Is the 100% correct answer

You can't allow drugs in sport because if you then would choose to make a career in sport then you would have to destroy your body to have any chance to reach the top. No easy roads even if you are an excellent talent if you allow drugs in sport.

Drugs in sport means better sport but in an unfair way and it takes away the fun to watch it.

[spud_gun]

Congratulations.

The Americans are decidedly apathetic towards this.

The strange thing is that Bonds was a hell of a player prior to his alleged taking of steroids. It's all fairly hypothetical but if Bonds had stayed clean, and who's to say he hasn't?, then he'd be well on his way to Cooperstown.

Now all he will have is a * against his name.

[dww]

well if you legalised drugs in sport then the only way a sportsperson could ever prosper is by forcing tons of **** into their bodies.

no doubt every parent would then dread having a sporty son or daughter.

Is the 100% correct answer

You can't allow drugs in sport because if you then would choose to make a career in sport then you would have to destroy your body to have any chance to reach the top. No easy roads even if you are an excellent talent if you allow drugs in sport.

Drugs in sport means better sport but in an unfair way and it takes away the fun to watch it.

So what about things like the blood doping which in all likelyhood have little/no ill effects?

How do you feel about the numerous 'supliments' taken by top sports people. Milan, for example, are often said to have a lab dedicated to getting the best legal combinations of ingredients for sports people. I'm not sure that the distinction between what is allowed and waht is not is as clear cut as is made out.

[AFII]

Bonds is probably not any different when it comes to using/taking drugs than most of the players in the MLB/NBA/NHL.

Why isn't anyone questioning the previus record holder? I doubt that he was that clean. They didn't test any players at all back then so everyone who used it knew that they would get away with it.

It's silly to single out Bonds in the way they have done.

What they should do is to ask why their isn't a hell of a lot of tests after every game. The leagues can afford it so why isn't it happening?

If anyone is found guilty then they should be banned for fours years and be forced to pay back all the wages they have earned from the clubs and sponsors.

Just to ban them will never be enough, you must hit them where it hurts the most, in the pocket. Only then it will have any effect.

[AFII]

So what about things like the blood doping which in all likelyhood have little/no ill effects?

How do you feel about the numerous 'supliments' taken by top sports people. Milan, for example, are often said to have a lab dedicated to getting the best legal combinations of ingredients for sports people. I'm not sure that the distinction between what is allowed and waht is not is as clear cut as is made out.

As long as it doesn't hurt your body long term and easy to use then I don't see any problem with it and that is available for everyone at a fair price.

Blood doping is a big problem but it's risk using it if you don't have medical experts helping you out and that is why it must be banned.

[spud_gun]

Bonds is probably not any different when it comes to using/taking drugs than most of the players in the MLB/NBA/NHL.

Why isn't anyone questioning the previus record holder? I doubt that he was that clean. They didn't test any players at all back then so everyone who used it knew that they would get away with it.

It's silly to single out Bonds in the way they have done.

What they should do is to ask why their isn't a hell of a lot of tests after every game. The leagues can afford it so why isn't it happening?

If anyone is found guilty then they should be banned for fours years and be forced to pay back all the wages they have earned from the clubs and sponsors.

Just to ban them will never be enough, you must hit them where it hurts the most, in the pocket. Only then it will have any effect.

Firstly. The majority of NHL / NBA & MLB players do not take performance enhancing drugs.

There was a small cabal of very high profile MLB players who instigated a steroid program in the mid to late 90's.

Three of the most high profile players were Mark McGuire, Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds.

Although none of them were ever found guilty of taking steroids there has been a cloud of suspicion hanging over these players.

As for insinuating that Hank Arron was not 'clean'

It's well documented that Arron is a man of utmost integrity and is almost beyond reproach on this matter.

Bonds has been singled out perhaps more so than any other player for the very fact that he's broken the most hallowed sports record in all of North American sports.

[thesilverfoxlfc]

Id say that a few NZ rugby players have taken something they are machines and increditably strong...........I wonder mmmmmmmm????

[Neil Young]

As long as it doesn't hurt your body long term and easy to use then I don't see any problem with it and that is available for everyone at a fair price.

Blood doping is a big problem but it's risk using it if you don't have medical experts helping you out and that is why it must be banned.

Why is blood doping a big problem if it's your blood being taken out and stored being re-infusion? I understand there are issues with the blood becoming contaminated but are there other potential harmful effects?

EPO mimics the effects of altitude training. Why is it banned yet altitude training isn't?

Should oxygen tents be banned too? I mean, it's not natural.

[alunevans]

So what about things like the blood doping which in all likelyhood have little/no ill effects?

How do you feel about the numerous 'supliments' taken by top sports people. Milan, for example, are often said to have a lab dedicated to getting the best legal combinations of ingredients for sports people. I'm not sure that the distinction between what is allowed and waht is not is as clear cut as is made out.

It may not be, and I'm not a scientist, but I'd rather have an unsatisfactory limit to drugs than none at all.

Sport is about sporting achievement, not about how much drugs your body can handle.

There is no achievement in cheating. May as well just race robots than do that.