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  • spud_gun
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    Originally posted by meffin View Post
    I disagree. At what stage of his career was he anything other than average? Who has he beaten?

    In a very poor division he's never been at the top of the pile. He beats the dross often, and the old has-beens, but as soon as he starts fighting anybody near the top 5, he loses.

    Look at his record, the only victories i'd be proud of are Roy Nelson and to a lesser extent Big Foot. Nog was past it, as was Cro Cop, Lesner was at the start of his career

    The only time he's fought a run of decent fighters he went 0-4. Thats an average fighter
    Dunno if a two time UFC heavyweight champion and a Jui Jitsu ninja could be called average.

    If you're going to pick holes in peoples resumes the. It could be done with just about every fighter whose ever stepped foot in the octogon or boxing ring.

    Mayweather - cherry picked, ran from Paul Williamz
    Pacquio - got KTFO against Marquez and steroids

    Anderson Silva - Did you see the Damian Maia fight? Oh and Steroids
    Jon Jones - Gustaveson beat him and he's only beat people towards the end of their career. Prime Rua would have monstered him oh and he's a heavyweight fighting at light heavy

    Etc etc etc

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  • meffin
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    Originally posted by spud_gun View Post


    He had a bad motorbike accident a few years back and has never quite been the same fighter.

    That being said to suggest that Mir was average is laughable.
    I disagree. At what stage of his career was he anything other than average? Who has he beaten?

    In a very poor division he's never been at the top of the pile. He beats the dross often, and the old has-beens, but as soon as he starts fighting anybody near the top 5, he loses.

    Look at his record, the only victories i'd be proud of are Roy Nelson and to a lesser extent Big Foot. Nog was past it, as was Cro Cop, Lesner was at the start of his career

    The only time he's fought a run of decent fighters he went 0-4. Thats an average fighter

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  • spud_gun
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    Originally posted by Gibbo View Post
    So...Silva vs Belfort 2 is on

    In Brazil.
    Should just make this under Pride rules and let them ingest whatever the **** they want.

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  • Gibbo
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    So...Silva vs Belfort 2 is on

    In Brazil.

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  • spud_gun
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    Originally posted by tanner View Post
    I don't think Mir was average by a long way. I loved watching him fight though because he had so much power and he was so explosive in applying his locks it was quite frightening to watch.

    I thought he was one of the best in his day, obviously short on many fronts by todays standards, but things have moved on enormously.


    He had a bad motorbike accident a few years back and has never quite been the same fighter.

    That being said to suggest that Mir was average is laughable.

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  • tanner
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    I don't think Mir was average by a long way. I loved watching him fight though because he had so much power and he was so explosive in applying his locks it was quite frightening to watch.

    I thought he was one of the best in his day, obviously short on many fronts by todays standards, but things have moved on enormously.

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  • meffin
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    As was his Kimura to be fair

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  • Nicey
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    Originally posted by meffin View Post
    Never been a fan of Mir- average fighter and difficult to like
    Although his boxing against Ngog 1 was awesome

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  • meffin
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    Never been a fan of Mir- average fighter and difficult to like

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  • tanner
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    Originally posted by Nicey View Post
    Jesus I remember him getting booed pre fight post fight during the fight for his antics

    You are right ...actually the only persona universally loved i think was Chuck ... when Chuck walked to the cage .. you knew bad things were just about to happen and ultimately .. thats what we are all hoping for ... 4.25 .... UFC GOLD
    UFC 88 CHUCK LIDDELL VS RASHAD EVANS 01 - YouTube CHUCK IS COMING
    Chuck always reminded me of some sort of ape in the way he carried himself. Well, an ape and a young boy with a pot belly

    The one fighter I used to really like watching was Mir, he was one nasty son of a bitch, so explosive his opponents hardly had a chance to tap out.

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  • Nicey
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    Originally posted by Alex View Post
    Its always the same though. One athlete dominates for a long period, and everyone wants to see them knocked off their perch.

    Happened with Jones, GSP, Jnr Dos Santos and now Rousey.

    Only person I think was universally loved whole still winning was Anderson Silva. But even he had his moments.
    Jesus I remember him getting booed pre fight post fight during the fight for his antics

    You are right ...actually the only persona universally loved i think was Chuck ... when Chuck walked to the cage .. you knew bad things were just about to happen and ultimately .. thats what we are all hoping for ... 4.25 .... UFC GOLD
    [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on7VMrb1_hM"]UFC 88 CHUCK LIDDELL VS RASHAD EVANS 01 - YouTube[/ame] CHUCK IS COMING

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  • kingfunk
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    I think it's great to see the respect female fighters now get, and 100% rightly so. A few short years ago this would have been a nothing fight in the world of MMA.

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  • Alex
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    Its always the same though. One athlete dominates for a long period, and everyone wants to see them knocked off their perch.

    Happened with Jones, GSP, Jnr Dos Santos and now Rousey.

    Only person I think was universally loved whole still winning was Anderson Silva. But even he had his moments.

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  • Nicey
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    She did not look right to me and Ronda Rousey is anything but Average ... the whole this is just a big game ... I look at them all as Athletes .. the circus has no effect on me ... lets see what they do when the cage door shuts and all of the hot air goes away ...I have nothing but respect for Rousey ... shes and exceptional Martial Artist ... she has met her match ... it will be interesting to see how she approaches the rematch .. I am guessing she may want to be a little more patient next time out .... she almost predicted her own knock out by headkick in a previous interview and she did what she said she would not .. get impatient and rush in

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