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In other news, Renshaw has been kicked out of the race!!!
On the Ning Nang Nong
Where the Cows go Bong!
And the Monkeys all say Boo!
There's a Nong Nang Ning
Where the trees go Ping!
And the tea pots Jibber Jabber Joo.
On the Nong Ning Nang
All the mice go Clang!
And you just can't catch 'em when they do!
So it's Ning Nang Nong!
Cows go Bong!
Nong Nang Ning!
Trees go Ping!
Nong Ning Nang!
The mice go clang!
What a noisy place to belong,
Is the Ning Nang Ning Nang Nong!!
So he should be, he let a Pom coast past him for an easy win. Thats as un-Australian as you can get!!!!
"When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah
"looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey
What am i missing?? If you're close enough to the finish line and in the lead....why the **** would you just let another guy fly past you??
Weird lot these cyclists. Must be the long ride crushing their brains?
"When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah
"looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey
Britain's Mark Cavendish claimed victory in Stage 11 of the Tour de France after a dramatic and fractious bunch sprint in the final kilometre, but his team-mate Mark Renshaw has been thrown out of the Tour.
The Columbia HTC riders were in their familiar positions as the 184km stage from Sisteron to Bourg-lès-Valances entered the closing stages, with Renshaw once again shepherding the British sprinter towards the last 350m, before Cavendish set off for the sprint, beating Italy's Alessandro Petacchi and American Tyler Farrar to the line.
But crucially, before the sprint, and with Cavendish still in his slipstream, Renshaw leaned his head over to Julian Dean and clearly headbutted the New Zealander at least once. The HTC Columbia lead-out man has been a key contributor to so many of Cavendish's Tour de France victories, but he will no longer be there to guide the Manx rider after the Tour organisers took a very dim view of the action approaching the finish line.
"Renshaw is out. We watched the film once and it was blatant. He head-butted Dean like in a keirin race," said Tour technical director Jean-Francois Pescheux. "This is cycling, not fighting. Everybody could have ended up on their backs."
Speaking after the stage, Cavendish defended his team-mate's actions: "I'm happy to win, the team did a good job. I understand the commissar made a decision. It's against what we the team believe happened. We will see what evolves. We came round the last corner in good psoiton.
"Julian Dean came up on right. He hooked his right elbow over Mark's (Renshaw) right. Mark used his head to get away. There was a risk of elbows tangling and that put everyone else in danger. He kept everyone else upright.
I didn't say we disagree with the commissar. We just feel a bit different."
Luxembourg's Andy Schleck retained the overall lead and the yellow jersey, maintaining his 41-second advantage over the defending champion Alberto Contador of Spain. It was Cavendish's 13th stage victory in the Tour, a performance unequalled by any sprinter in the last two decades.
The 25-year-old has now eclipsed sprinters such as his mentor Erik Zabel of Germany, Italian Mario Cipollini and Australia's Robbie McEwen.
On the Ning Nang Nong
Where the Cows go Bong!
And the Monkeys all say Boo!
There's a Nong Nang Ning
Where the trees go Ping!
And the tea pots Jibber Jabber Joo.
On the Nong Ning Nang
All the mice go Clang!
And you just can't catch 'em when they do!
So it's Ning Nang Nong!
Cows go Bong!
Nong Nang Ning!
Trees go Ping!
Nong Ning Nang!
The mice go clang!
What a noisy place to belong,
Is the Ning Nang Ning Nang Nong!!
Not "another guy", a teammate who can sprint faster than you and will win the stage.
But you've ridden all that way only to basically give up with 100m to go??
Isn't this all about winning the stage.
Its seems as though there is 1 numero uno rider for each team.....and the rest are just cannon fodder to make sure he wins....is this it?
**** that for a joke. Training as hard as all these guys do, leading to within 100m and then saying "there you go mate have that win on the house, i don't want it, i get more enjoyment watching you win"
"When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah
"looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey
It's based on the overall classification Harv, that's the more important thing and determines the 'fastest' after all the stages (the one having the fastest time overall). Stages are important yes, but not as important as winning the yellow jersey (which determines the rider which has the best time overall - therefore is the fastest after adding the time after every stage and adding them up).
"When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah
"looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey
I don't think the lad gave up 100m before the finishing line, it was probably 2kms or so, which is a bloody long way after you've run yourself to the ground.
The team aspect makes sense when you're riding for your leader, who can boast the yellow, green or polka dot jersey. You try to make the race as fast as you can so as to favour your leader.
It's a real team sport.
Last edited by Guest; 15-07-10, 07:40 PM.
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But you've ridden all that way only to basically give up with 100m to go??
Isn't this all about winning the stage.
Its seems as though there is 1 numero uno rider for each team.....and the rest are just cannon fodder to make sure he wins....is this it?
**** that for a joke. Training as hard as all these guys do, leading to within 100m and then saying "there you go mate have that win on the house, i don't want it, i get more enjoyment watching you win"
That's correct, but they're called domestiques not cannon fodder.
I don't think the lad gave up 100m before the finishing line, it was probably 2kms or so, which is a bloody long way after you've run yourself to the ground.
The team aspect makes sense when you're riding for your leader, who can boast the yellow, green or polka dot jersey. You try to make the race as fast as you can so as to favour your leader.
It's a real team sport.
2km
It was a maximum 200m from the line.
Team sport my arsch, its stupid. They seem to all be capable of being there or thereabouts. It seems they work their arse of....so some other dude in their team can win a yellow jersey. Why don't they all get a crack at it?? Thats what the race is about no? Winning the Tour De France......they train like slaves to be able to ride it.....and then have to give way to a supposedly better rider. Not very competitive if you ask me.
It very very French in fact.
"When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah
"looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey
Harv, have you ever heard the expression 'water carrier' used in football about Deschamps, originally, and other, similar players who do the hard work for the team but don't get much glory?
It comes from cycling.
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
I think Renshaw's punishment is OTT. Dean was clearly veering off line to block Renshaw and Cavendish. Renshaw had a right to protect his line - although the butting was too strong, relegation to last and a fine would have been the appropriate punishment I feel.
His subsequent blocking of Farrar is impossible to assess as it's about whether or not he was doing it deliberately and I really doubt the Tour commissaires have access to what was going on in Renshaw's head.
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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