Boxing

[Mike]

Khan and Maidana would be a great fight.

I think he'd have the beating of Broner, who's quite overrated imo.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Khan and Maidana would be a great fight.

I think he'd have the beating of Broner, who's quite overrated imo.

I agree that he should beat Broner, but would rather see him actually do it instead of going on twitter whenever Broner challenges him.


Khan-Madiana could be a cracker and would far better than their close first meeting.


The likes of Broner and Madiana are the level that Khan should be going after when he cannot get in the ring with the genuine top dogs in the division if he wants to be seen as a genuine challenger.

The last four fights that Khan was in were against less than stellar opponents, and certainly not the types he needs to be facing on a regular basis if he wants to be seen as a potential top dog based on performances rather than a top dog based on spin.

For all the hype about Khan he has not been in the ring often with a top level fighter who was close to their peak. He did go in against Garcia and Peterson, and both beat him so he has everything to prove in terms of showing he is a top level performer himself.

Wins over a faded Judah and a horribly past it Barrera count for very little, and his best win for me (in terms of the level of fighter he got the nod over) was against Madiana.


Actually the fight I would most like to see Khan in would be against the winner of the clash between Garcia and Peterson next month. Would be a big statement of intent from Khan if he went gunning for the winner but I would be shocked if he did so.

[Mike]

I agree that he should beat Broner, but would rather see him actually do it instead of going on twitter whenever Broner challenges him.


Khan-Madiana could be a cracker and would far better than their close first meeting.


The likes of Broner and Madiana are the level that Khan should be going after when he cannot get in the ring with the genuine top dogs in the division if he wants to be seen as a genuine challenger.

The last four fights that Khan was in were against less than stellar opponents, and certainly not the types he needs to be facing on a regular basis if he wants to be seen as a potential top dog based on performances rather than a top dog based on spin.

For all the hype about Khan he has not been in the ring often with a top level fighter who was close to their peak. He did go in against Garcia and Peterson, and both beat him so he has everything to prove in terms of showing he is a top level performer himself.

Wins over a faded Judah and a horribly past it Barrera count for very little, and his best win for me (in terms of the level of fighter he got the nod over) was against Madiana.


Actually the fight I would most like to see Khan in would be against the winner of the clash between Garcia and Peterson next month. Would be a big statement of intent from Khan if he went gunning for the winner but I would be shocked if he did so.

If Khan is to fight Broner there's no better time than now. He's not going to get Mayweather or Pacquiao so can stop preaching every two minutes about that. Broner is an established name in America and would be a big scalp. Broner has shown signs of brilliance but hasn't shown it enough - that loss to Maidana seems to have knocked his confidence. Khan's speed is something that Broner hasn't come across before; against Khan it will be the first time he's gone into a fight being the slower man.

Maidana would be seen as the riskier option; right now Khan can't afford another setback after building himself back up after the Garcia defeat.

I'd like Khan to go after Garcia. Although he lost to him last time, he'd won every round of that fight before the KO punch. His defence is slowly improving and that could be the difference this time around if they were to fight again.

[Doc_Piptorious]

If Khan is to fight Broner there's no better time than now. He's not going to get Mayweather or Pacquiao so can stop preaching every two minutes about that. Broner is an established name in America and would be a big scalp. Broner has shown signs of brilliance but hasn't shown it enough - that loss to Maidana seems to have knocked his confidence. Khan's speed is something that Broner hasn't come across before; against Khan it will be the first time he's gone into a fight being the slower man.

Maidana would be seen as the riskier option; right now Khan can't afford another setback after building himself back up after the Garcia defeat.

I'd like Khan to go after Garcia. Although he lost to him last time, he'd won every round of that fight before the KO punch. His defence is slowly improving and that could be the difference this time around if they were to fight again.

Yeah Broner is a no brainer in my eyes. A decent boxer who is a bigger name than his talent warrants. Khan should stop him and should have too much in pretty much every department.


Maidana is a bigger risk, but Khan cannot keep avoiding decent fighters over and over as he has done for much of his career. At some point he is going to have to be able to get into the ring with a top level fighter and actually beat a top level fighter if he wants to be considered in that league. Khan turns 29 this year and he has never beaten a genuine top level fighter. In that respect he is like Broner in that he is a far bigger name than his in ring accomplishments warrants.

Fighting and beating Maidana again would be a step towards getting him ready to go in against higher level fighters than what he has faced.

Khan can shout all he wants about Mayweather, but he to date has been found lacking against guys a level below Mayweather. So if he wants to be taken seriously as a challenger to Mayweather or whichever top dog he wants to replace then the likes of Garcia and Peterson need to be on his radar rather than trying to pass off bouts against the likes of Molina, Diaz, Collazo etc as wins aginst top fighters. That kind of spin might fool the casual viewer who does not follow the sport but anyone with more than a passing interest will see right through Khan's record to date and will see that Khan badly needs to finally step up and get a W against one of the top level guys.


As for Khan winning every round against Garcia before he got stopped. He won the first two rounds of that fight. Garcia put him down in the third which saw Garcia win that round and then in the fourth round Garcia put Khan on the canvas a few times.

I would like to see them fight again though because I think Garcioa is a much better fighter now than he was back then when he stopped Khan in four. Garcia is far more ring savvy now and his win over Matthysse was a great example of how he can now handle very heavy hitters

[Tee]

He beat the guy who fought Mayweather twice after he lost to Khan! Hardly lacking is it Jaco?

Personally I would love to see him go back in with Garcia. Great match up and one that would really interest fight fans, a genuine 50-50.

[Doc_Piptorious]

Actually come to think of it, Matthysse is another that I would like to see Khan paired with.


He has the sort of power that Khan has struggled against his whole career, so would love to see if Khan has figured out how to fight a heavy hitter.

[Gibbo]

Yeah Garcia is the fight Id like to see him take, him Broner or Maidana would all be good enough for me though.

I think he'd beat Brook as well, if he decided to take that route, even though he seems determined not to.

[spud_gun]

Yeah Broner is a no brainer in my eyes. A decent boxer who is a bigger name than his talent warrants. Khan should stop him and should have too much in pretty much every department.

No way Khan stops Broner. A UD yeah but no stoppage.

Maidana gave Broner a ferocious beating but he still made it through the 12 rounds in their fight.

[Doc_Piptorious]

He beat the guy who fought Mayweather twice after he lost to Khan! Hardly lacking is it Jaco?

Personally I would love to see him go back in with Garcia. Great match up and one that would really interest fight fans, a genuine 50-50.

You mean the guy that I said was Khan's best win imo?


And yes I do think it is more than just a tad lacking if beating Maidana is proof of being top class because Maidana is certainly not a top level fighter. He is a good fighter and would be a tier below the top level guys like Garcia who in turn are a tier below the Mayweather level fighters.


Khan has never beaten a top level fighter. He fought two and he lost each time.

Maidana is not top level. Judah was not top level when he fought Khan. Diaz, Molina, Malignaggi, McCloskey, Collazo and Alexandar are nowhere near top class and the names in Khan's W column pretty much take a nosedive after them.


So for me Madiana is the best that Khan has gotten a win over, and as such Khan has yet to prove himself capable of beating a top level boxer. Which is why I would like to see him go after that level again rather than just going on and on about how Mayweather is avoiding him because we all know that Mayweather is a money fight and nothing else.

[Doc_Piptorious]

No way Khan stops Broner. A UD yeah but no stoppage.

Maidana gave Broner a ferocious beating but he still made it through the 12 rounds in their fight.

I think Khan hits a lot harder than Madiana when he connects cleanly and I think Khan has the power to force a stoppage against Broner. Broner is durable but I would fancy Khan to win by TKO or KO somewhere around the 7th if they met

[Tee]

You mean the guy that I said was Khan's best win imo?


And yes I do think it is more than just a tad lacking if beating Maidana is proof of being top class because Maidana is certainly not a top level fighter. He is a good fighter and would be a tier below the top level guys like Garcia who in turn are a tier below the Mayweather level fighters.


Khan has never beaten a top level fighter. He fought two and he lost each time.

Maidana is not top level. Judah was not top level when he fought Khan. Diaz, Molina, Malignaggi, McCloskey, Collazo and Alexandar are nowhere near top class and the names in Khan's W column pretty much take a nosedive after them.


So for me Madiana is the best that Khan has gotten a win over, and as such Khan has yet to prove himself capable of beating a top level boxer. Which is why I would like to see him go after that level again rather than just going on and on about how Mayweather is avoiding him because we all know that Mayweather is a money fight and nothing else.

I hear you, but I suspect no matter what he does it will never be good enough to satisfy you. Haters gonna hate.

[Doc_Piptorious]

I hear you, but I suspect no matter what he does it will never be good enough to satisfy you. Haters gonna hate.

If Khan starts getting into the ring with top level or very close to it fighters and starts coming away with the W, then he will be in that league himself in my eyes.

But for as long as he avoids taking on top level guys, or keeps getting beat by them, then I see no way how he can be rated a top level guy himself.


Khan needs wins over the Garcias, Petersons and the like if he wants to prove he is a top level fighter. Tweeting about beating guys does nowt, and having promoters trying to hoodwink people into thinking a guy who beats no top guys is somehow a top guy himself carries no weight.


.But if he went and beat Matthysse, people will pay attention. Beat Garcia, or beat Peterson and people would be asking how this guy is not being put in against Mayweather and they would be asking for boxing reasons rather than because of hype.

My own take on Khan is that he will fall short of ever having broken into the top level simply because he will never have taken on and beaten guys at that level, but at 28 (29 this year) he still has time on his side to go after those guys and prove that he belongs at the top.


Will he do that? Who knows, but he needs to if he wants to be seen as more than a maybe man. If he retired in the morning then the sort of career he will have had is not going to have people taking about him in 10 or 20 years time, but if he spent the next 3 or 4 years taking out the better guys out there then his Pro boxing legacy could be far more than a massive bank balance.

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[spud_gun]

Just watched Kovalev vs Pascal

Kovalev impressive as usual. Fight against Stevenson is a must. Failing that then I wouldn't mind seeing him batter Bellew

[Doc_Piptorious]

Just watched Kovalev vs Pascal

Kovalev impressive as usual. Fight against Stevenson is a must. Failing that then I wouldn't mind seeing him batter Bellew

Bellend being battered is something a lot of folk would enjoy watching.