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    Originally posted by Alex View Post
    Is the majority of boxing a joke now? I have lost all interest in the sport now. Used to always seek it out at the weekends. Doesnt seem to be many characters in the sport I like, and the fights people want never happen when they need to.

    Haye is a joke, and the way people throw money at his fights really makes me dislike the whole thing now.

    Im sure it has always been like this, but its so transparent now.

    I think MMA and more specifically UFC having a match maker rather than 100s of different promoters has made that far more attractive for someone who wants to see the top guys going at it. Its not always the way, but when there is a money fight, it usually happens. Joe Silva has retired from UFC, but his long time assistant has taken over. So there is at least some continuity there.

    I dunno, boxing seems like its on its last legs to me.



    Certain types of promoters and too many governing bodies have long been a boil on the bum of boxing, but they are not a new thing and boxing has thrived despite them in the past.


    Boxing as a sport is not on it's last legs by any means, as the grass roots is still there and the water carriers (and that in not meant in an unflattering manner) that have always made up the numbers outside the stars are still there in the same sort of numbers.

    But what has changed is the stars. The big draws. The superstars. There are some genuine world class boxers spread across the divisions and a number of top tier fighters, but right now many of them are not personalities or do not have enough competition of their own level to catch the public's eye.

    Nowadays a hell of a lot of the guys who are touted as being the stars and the best are really of the level that would have made up the mid to lower tier in decades gone by and it is hard to pass those guys off as the cream too often before people see through it and just tire of them.


    Take the heavyweight division. Once it was THE sport to be king in. If you ruled the heavyweights then the world knew you. But a lot of that was because there was nearly always top guys in the division that could compete with one another.

    Nowadays we have a division that is made up of guys that are simply not of the same calibre of the top guys even from more recent eras like the 1980s, 1990s or even the 2000s, and it shows in the ring and it also shows in the apathy expressed by the general public.


    UFC for me has tapped into two things. One being that it does have a number of divisions with guys that have haigh levels of genuine, and the second being that it has characters/personalities that can be promoted/marketed in a manner that is not too far off of the WWE, and the public, especially the casual watcher, will eat that up.


    If the heavyweight division right now had two or three genuine top tiers fighters and at least one of them had a big personality ( be it in a positive o negative way), then I have little doubt that we would be seeing massive numbers drawn to see them face one another and also to see them cut through the division.

    People recognize genuine quality and will want to attach themselves to it as either a fan or critic.

    People also recognize mediocrity and will only be fooled a limited number of times by it before numbers fall off of a cliff.
    Last edited by Doc_Piptorious; 10-03-17, 12:12 PM.
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      Boxing has major problems but nothing could get me watching UFC. I know plenty here like it but to me it's completely artless....just like watching lads brawl in a pub car park. No thanks.
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        Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
        Boxing has major problems but nothing could get me watching UFC. I know plenty here like it but to me it's completely artless....just like watching lads brawl in a pub car park. No thanks.
        don't get it.
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            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
            Boxing has major problems but nothing could get me watching UFC. I know plenty here like it but to me it's completely artless....just like watching lads brawl in a pub car park. No thanks.
            Come on, how many pub brawls are between blokes in dinky shorts and are won by submission ?

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              Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
              Come on, how many pub brawls are between blokes in dinky shorts and are won by submission ?


              You would be surprised.
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                Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                Boxing has major problems but nothing could get me watching UFC. I know plenty here like it but to me it's completely artless....just like watching lads brawl in a pub car park. No thanks.



                Yeah it tends to leave me a bit cold. Disagree that it is artless, but like yourself it is just not my thing.
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                  Originally posted by Tee View Post


                  I like the idea, but cannot see it taking off.
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                    Did anyone watch the Steven's v Lemieux fight?

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                    Brutal ko

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                      That was a scary KO.



                      Good to see he was online talking about it and seems ok.


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                        Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious View Post
                        That was a scary KO.



                        Good to see he was online talking about it and seems ok.


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                        It certainly was, mate.

                        I was actually watching the Golovkin v Lemieux fight the other day. Honestly, there is absolutely no one in boxing that can cut the ring off the way he does.

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                          Originally posted by marcus50bucks View Post
                          It certainly was, mate.

                          I was actually watching the Golovkin v Lemieux fight the other day. Honestly, there is absolutely no one in boxing that can cut the ring off the way he does.


                          And we get to watch him against Jacobs next weekend. Could be an interesting fight while it lasts. Jacobs won't hide and we can expect him to have a right go at GGG.


                          But short of Jacobs landing the shot of a lifetime, it should be yet another early night for GGG.


                          Andy Lee is on the undercard as he has he first fight since his loss to BJS.
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                            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                            Boxing has major problems but nothing could get me watching UFC. I know plenty here like it but to me it's completely artless....just like watching lads brawl in a pub car park. No thanks.

                            How about team UFC hehe 5 v 5

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                              Originally posted by Jaco_Pastorious View Post
                              And we get to watch him against Jacobs next weekend. Could be an interesting fight while it lasts. Jacobs won't hide and we can expect him to have a right go at GGG.


                              But short of Jacobs landing the shot of a lifetime, it should be yet another early night for GGG.


                              Andy Lee is on the undercard as he has he first fight since his loss to BJS.
                              Thanks for reminding me, looking forward to it.

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