He got lucky ffs. He should have got the same time as Quintana.
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Why? He was ahead of Quintana and in a group of three that was pulling further away from Quintana, then a motorbike caused a crash. You shouldn't be penalised for stuff that's completely outside of the race. A mechanical at a bad time, tough ****. Someone falling in normal racing and taking you down, tough ****. But a motorbike - **** that.Originally posted by Fredo View PostHe got lucky ffs. He should have got the same time as Quintana.
Think the commissaires made the best of a ****ty situation, but they really need to do something about the crowds. As I think Millar said in commentary, they're already ruining the race anyway by making it single file so no-one's able to make a move.
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Exactly.Originally posted by calvoboy View PostWhy? He was ahead of Quintana and in a group of three that was pulling further away from Quintana, then a motorbike caused a crash. You shouldn't be penalised for stuff that's completely outside of the race. A mechanical at a bad time, tough ****. Someone falling in normal racing and taking you down, tough ****. But a motorbike - **** that.
Think the commissaires made the best of a ****ty situation, but they really need to do something about the crowds. As I think Millar said in commentary, they're already ruining the race anyway by making it single file so no-one's able to make a move.
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Ah, so that's where you're coming from...Originally posted by Fredo View PostIt wouldn't surprise me if a few years down the line Froome is found to be the greatest cheat of them all! He's a cut above the rest at the moment. There is no race.
Let's see once they've been through the Alps. He's got a history of struggling in the third week, and it'll be do or die for Quintana.
On Froome there are arguments for and against, but on balance I'm won over by the Walsh argument of "where are the whistleblowers?". Sky have now gone through lots of riders, masseurs, doctors, technical staff, etc. who have left and are elsewhere but there's not a single accusation of cheating. Even from disgruntled staff who were sacked after they had past links with doping - wouldn't being sacked like that make you want to scream from the rooftops if Sky were cheating? Whereas with Armstrong there were loads and they just kept on building.
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He's a ****ing cheat too.
Castrate him like Lance"When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah
"looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey
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Originally posted by dom9 View PostTricky isn't it.
He's clearly not broken any rules. It's all above board. Legit.
But are the rules fit for purpose?
That is the question. It's complicated.
It doesn't look particularly good for him, the timings are incredibly suspicious.Modifying post.
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People always want to think the worst.
He hasn't cheated as he's been upfront and got permission to use them. He hasn't secretly been found out. The rules are the same for all. Releasing private medical records is abhorrent, especially when done to create untrust in all and try and justify a nations complete pre orchastred cheating programme.Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde
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But yet, legitimate questions about the rules and their application have been raised.Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View PostPeople always want to think the worst.
He hasn't cheated as he's been upfront and got permission to use them. He hasn't secretly been found out. The rules are the same for all. Releasing private medical records is abhorrent, especially when done to create untrust in all and try and justify a nations complete pre orchastred cheating programme.Oh I don't know.
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He'll have taken a load of dodgy ****. This is just the tip of the iceberg.Originally posted by dom9 View PostHe can't be a cheat if he's not broken any rules."When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah
"looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey
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