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    #31
    Does anyone want to win the worst La Liga in memory?

    Real Madrid have lost eight times in 2008, yet they remain seven points clear of a plodding Barça side and the rest of the chasing pack
    Sid Lowe
    March 17, 2008 3:25 PM

    It's Pass-the-Parcel on the Gaza Strip, Musical Chairs in Texas, Roulette in Russia. The game no one wants to win. Like the Chuckle Brothers lugging a piano down a set of stairs, they keep talking about La Liga changing hands - to me, to you; to me, to you - only for it to end up in exactly the same place, the whole sweating, cheek blowing, side-splitting episode an exercise in futility so supreme you'd be better off playing scrabble with Jermaine Pennant. Every time someone opens the door to La Liga, someone else slams it shut again; every time Real Madrid try to offer Barça the title, their Catalan chums dash for exit like a diner in a Piccadilly sushi bar. As for the rest, they're hardly bothering to play at all.

    Hay Liga as they say in Spain - there is a league. Trouble is, even if there is a league (and it looks suspiciously like there isn't) it's rubbish. A slow bicycle race. Less a sprint for the line, more Douglas Bader answering the door to the postie after a particularly heavy night on the sauce. Not so much seeking a worthy winner as the best of a bad bunch. No wonder everyone spent the whole week banging on about Julian De Guzman's promise to abstain from sex for a year if he scored against Madrid. It beats talking about the football. As Javier Clemente put it: "Madrid and Barça don't play a pepper."

    On December 23, Madrid opened a seven-point lead, winning 1-0 at the Camp Nou , and prompting President Tourettes to declare: "Madrid are frightening". On Saturday night they lost 1-0 to Deportivo La Coruña, thanks to an own goal from Pepe. Which might not seem that bad - after all, Madrid have gone almost seventeen years without winning at Riazor - but for one thing: it was bad. Truly, deeply, desperately bad. A game so awful it left you whimpering for your 90 minutes back and the poor sods who actually paid-per-view demanding an €11.99 refund on the grounds that they hadn't viewed anything. A game in which Madrid didn't manage a single shot on target. A game so utterly pathetic AS's Mad Madridista Tomás Roncero declared it the "worst in Madrid's history" and Calderón was proven right: frightening? Madrid were terrifying.

    Worse still, it was a game that continued a desperate run. Since their clásico victory, the absences of Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Robinho, Sergio Ramos and Wesley Sneijder have exposed Madrid's weaknesses. So too, although no one wants to admit as much, has the dip in (return to?) form of Raúl and Guti. And, however much marvellously miserable manager Bernd Schuster tries to claim that defeats are "not defeats", Madrid have been beaten eight times in 2008 - half their matches. They've lost four of their last seven in the league and only beat Recreativo and Espanyol with help from the referee.

    They've spent €100m on players, none of whom are regulars; their president is busy threatening newspapers with excommunication if they mention Nicolas Cage, while insisting that he clocked Paolo Calabresi right from the start (which will be why he took him into a the dressing room afterwards) , and Schuster is at war with the world. In short, they're in crisis. Out of the Cup. Out of the Champions League. And out of the league.

    Oh. Right. Yeah.

    Three months later and Madrid's lead is still seven points; the same seven points it was after the derbi. Because if Madrid are bad, Barça aren't much better. Unfit, poorly organised, plodding, with Henry missing Tea - all ex-pats out here do, Thierry - and Ronaldinho missing training, Messi injured again, Edmilson fit again, lacking a killer instinct or a Plan B, they are a mess. One especially adept at snatching failure from the jaws of success, as the last four games have shown.

    Against Zaragoza a terrible decision saw them escape with a win they tried to surrender. Against Atlético, they were so superior it was embarrassing but lost to el Kun. Against Villarreal they were on top but were defeated. And last night, handed yet another opportunity, they twice led against Almería and twice conceded from set-plays. Which is fair enough: why work on set-plays when Almería, a supremely well-drilled side, have only scored a third of their goals that way?

    Barça have collected a solitary point out of the last nine - a run so bad that while they remain stuck puffing on the stairs, Villarreal are just two points behind. The same Villarreal who yesterday collected their first home victory in four.

    And that's kind of the point. Because while Madrid and Barça have been poor, the saddest thing is that their challengers have been unable to take advantage or provide a half-decent title race. Atlético have a fantastic forward line but no defence, Villarreal panic near the summit, and Racing and Espanyol are over-achieving. Considering the problems that Sevilla have had - Antonio Puerta's death, the Dani Alves soap opera, Juande Ramos ditching them, injury to Javi Navarro and Manolo Jimenez's bizarre attempt to deny Luis Fabiano goals - it's a wonder they're this close. And, as for Valencia, the club that should have pushed for the title, they're a joke, ruined by a fat bloke with a rubbish 'tache: Juan Soler.

    Last week Soler finally left the Valencia presidency on the grounds of illness. He was right too: he's made Valencia sick. Very sick. This is the man who sacked Quique Sanchez Flores and replaced him with Ronald Koeman with the team four points off the top and saw them brilliantly extend that gap to 26, just six off the relegation zone; the man who has created a hive of in-fighting and bitterness, ending up in court against his captain; the same man who in his three years since taking over a club that had just won two league titles and the Uefa Cup, has had seven coaches, seven technical directors, three medical chiefs, €187m worth of players and no trophies whatsoever. Sometimes you get exactly what you deserve. And sometimes, as Madrid look set to prove, you get rather more.

    Results: Recreativo 4-2 Murcia, Deportivo 1-0 Real Madrid, Betis 1-2 Athletic (suspended in the 69th minute after Athletic goalkeeper Armando got hit by a bottle thrown from the stands. I repeat, a this was no isolated incident, but this time Betis fans - the ones that didn't have punch-ups with the police - should be applauded for grabbing the idiot who threw the bottle and handing him over to the stewards), Valencia 1-2 Sevilla, Villarreal 2-0 Zaragoza, Getafe 2-1 Racing (With some quality lunacy from Toño and a great goalkeeping display from Marcano, who's a centre-back), Espanyol 2-1 Mallorca (Dear God, no. The chiki-chiki, no, Valladolid 0-0 Osasuna, Almería 2-2 Barcelona, Atlético 3-0 Levante.
    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
    -- William Blake

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      #32
      I'm a fan of Spanish football*.


















      *men
      RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFAEL BENITEZ!

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        #33
        Barcelona's Henry shuts door on Premiership return
        tribalfootball.com - March 18, 2008

        Barcelona striker Thierry Henry has shut the door on a return to the Premiership.

        After admitting he was missing his daughter last week, Chelsea and Manchester City have been linked with the former Arsenal captain.

        However, when asked today about the chances of returning to England, Henry replied: "It is not a possibility."
        Just believe and you never know what will happen.

        According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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          #34
          Sid Lowe does write a fantastic article. Cheers DWW

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            #35
            Watch the third goal and the aftermath

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              #36
              I don't think Madrid have been in such a state in a long long time. They have no real 'superstars' anymore and they are changing their manager like I don't know what. Gone are the days where they make a BIG signing during the summer such as a Ronaldo, Zidane or a Figo, and quite frankly they are now just boring.

              They have players in their side that are now regulars like Julio Baptista and Marcelo and a lot of what you would call 'good' players but nothing special. Even their defense, they only have Cannavaro who can be classed as a top player IMO.

              So to sum up, there aren't having a bad run, they are just not that good anymore.

              As for Barca, well they are totally the opposite. They have superstars in abundance but the real problem is Rijkaard IMO. He doesn't know how to assemble a team. Quite often he has played 6 attackers in front of the back 4 in the absense of Yaya Toure which is just ridiculous. He plays Henry out of position and he won't play Ronaldinho even when he's fit. He plays Dos Santos instead of Bojan when it's a choice between the 2 which is stupid. A new manager in there would turn things around for them but in the case of Madrid, it won't be as easy.

              The second best team in Spain at the moment is Sevilla who had early season problems off the pitch etc hense the 5th place at the moment. The potential there is massive and if they were to get the likes of Mourinho or laudrup in there in the summer, you could be looking at something special.

              Valencia are in transition but they have the quality there although Villa will leave in the summer.

              Atletico are another with massive potential to become a really big team in world football. Real Madrid though could be in deep trouble if they don't do something and fast.

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                #37
                Real Madrid's first problem is Bernd Schuster. He is making an ass out of himself and the club. He will go, the board don't like him, the press don't like him and the players are a bit confused with him. The usual names will be banded in the summer: Benitez, Mourinho, Wenger, Ancelotti, Laudrup.

                Barcelona have had this problem since last season but have failed to rectify it. They have superstars who have lost motivation like Deco, Ronaldinho. There are problems everywhere from the players to the medical team. Reports from Spain saying last week Ronaldinho came into training 'unfit' after a party the night before which meant he was dropped from the draw against Almeria. This Barcelona side is in transition and with players like Krkic and Dos Santos coming through (more the former than the latter) and many signings expected next season, they should be a force again. Rijkaard will stay because Laporte loves him but it is whether Rijkaard will want to stay or not is the question. Does Milan have enough attraction for him? Laporte recognises the side needs changes and players like the overweight Ronaldinho, Deco, Oleguer, Zambrotta will all go and new faces will be introduced.

                Sevilla are on the way up again but it might be too little too late. They are fifth, two points behind fourth placed Athletico. They have some massive fixtures over the coming weeks with Athletico on Saturday, Real at the Bernabeu a week on Sunday and Villarreal at home two weeks Sunday. The Champions League spots should be interesting with Villarreal, Athletico, Sevilla and Espanyol all chasing them.

                Rumours in Spain claim that if Koeman doesn't win his game in the Copa against Barca on Thursday, he will be sacked. Never liked him so on yer bike lad.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Ben Tover View Post
                  Real Madrid's first problem is Bernd Schuster. He is making an ass out of himself and the club. He will go, the board don't like him, the press don't like him and the players are a bit confused with him. The usual names will be banded in the summer: Benitez, Mourinho, Wenger, Ancelotti, Laudrup. They need an attack minded manager with a big ego and personality.
                  Barcelona have had this problem since last season but have failed to rectify it. They have superstars who have lost motivation like Deco, Ronaldinho. There are problems everywhere from the players to the medical team. Reports from Spain saying last week Ronaldinho came into training 'unfit' after a party the night before which meant he was dropped from the draw against Almeria. That's balls, Rijkaard never picks him for away games these days due to his supposed lack of general fitness so he wouldn't have played anywayThis Barcelona side is in transition and with players like Krkic and Dos Santos coming through (more the former than the latter) and many signings expected next season, they should be a force again. Rijkaard will stay because Laporte loves him but it is whether Rijkaard will want to stay or not is the question. He'll walk or be forced if they don't win anything. He's gone stale and he can't get it right Does Milan have enough attraction for him? Laporte recognises the side needs changes and players like the overweight Ronaldinho, Deco, Oleguer, Zambrotta will all go and new faces will be introduced.

                  Sevilla are on the way up again but it might be too little too late. They are fifth, two points behind fourth placed Athletico. They have some massive fixtures over the coming weeks with Athletico on Saturday, Real at the Bernabeu a week on Sunday and Villarreal at home two weeks Sunday. The Champions League spots should be interesting with Villarreal, Athletico, Sevilla and Espanyol all chasing them. Wouldn't be surprised if Seville win all 3, they are the form team. On Fire. fancy thenm strongly for 4th if not higher

                  Rumours in Spain claim that if Koeman doesn't win his game in the Copa against Barca on Thursday, he will be sacked. Never liked him so on yer bike lad. He has brought in some good quality youth and the future looks promising but it would look better with someone else in charge! He hasn't got the dressing room and that's the main problem there

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                    #39
                    That's balls, Rijkaard never picks him for away games these days due to his supposed lack of general fitness so he wouldn't have played anyway
                    Well its a bit of both of what you are and I are saying. Ronaldinho claims to be very lonely hence his party lifestyle and also his beer gut. Ronaldinho has said that he enjoys beer when he is at home and his recent episode with coming to training half drunk didn't help his course. Robinho had a similar attitude last season and Capello gave him a dressing down and didn't play him in the weekend game. Robinho looked at himself and changed his attitude and it has worked. Robinho along with Raul, Casillas and Ramos have been the most consistent players in the side this season. The press is asking why can't Ronaldinho do this? Why can't he change his attitude because there is doubting the fact that when Ronaldinho is on form, he is majestic to watch and looks like a world beater.

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                      #40
                      I think he's in need of a fresh challenge myself. Seems to happen to a lot of brazilians such as Ronaldo and rivaldo etc. Kaka will move on too I'd say soon.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
                        I think he's in need of a fresh challenge myself. Seems to happen to a lot of brazilians such as Ronaldo and rivaldo etc. Kaka will move on too I'd say soon.
                        Kaka/ Ronaldinho swap possibly?

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Ben Tover View Post
                          Kaka/ Ronaldinho swap possibly?
                          possibly, wouldn't shock me but I think Real may have a say as he (kaka) is exactly that 'superstar' I was on about earlier that they have been lacking and if he were to become available, Real would probably put together the biggest wage packet ever to try and get him.

                          Don't really see Ronny in the premiership though and maybe AC will buy could buy him from the funds gained from Kaka sale to Madrid, along with sheva back from Chelsea

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
                            possibly, wouldn't shock me but I think Real may have a say as he (kaka) is exactly that 'superstar' I was on about earlier that they have been lacking and if he were to become available, Real would probably put together the biggest wage packet ever to try and get him.

                            Don't really see Ronny in the premiership though and maybe AC will buy could buy him from the funds gained from Kaka sale to Madrid, along with sheva back from Chelsea
                            I do see Real going for a £55 million bid for Cristiano Ronaldo this summer. This is there marquee player and the balance sheet at Old Toilet might look better.

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                              #44
                              If Ronaldo did leave for Madrid, Kaka could end up at OT! Or maybe ronny (although I think they both prefer LFC )

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
                                If Ronaldo did leave for Madrid, Kaka could end up at OT! Or maybe ronny (although I think they both prefer LFC )
                                I don't see Kaka or Ronaldinho going to the Scum. Ronaldinho is probably now more suited to the Italian game of penetrative passing instead of fast passing and moving unless he loses his weight.

                                Kaka is a player I think who either goes to the top 2 in Spain or stays at Milan for the rest of his life.

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