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    #61
    Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
    It strikes me that Gazza's alcohol problem is just a way to try and neutralise the underlying (real problem which is causing the illness)problem.
    It no doubt is. It's called self medicating and it's one of the most destructive methods of coping with depression. It gets in a vicous cycle. You drink, you black out, you no longer hurt, the drink sinks you further into guilt and depression, so you drink, you.....

    The drink makes the illness worse and the illness makes the drink worse.

    I don't hold this against him. I've been there myself, many years ago. But to go back to that cycle after escaping it, knowing what it will do to those around you, that's what I find hard to understand. But anyways....

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      #62
      Originally posted by BFG View Post
      Look at Elvoz's post below mate. He is clearly judging him based on his own preconceptions. I didn't really have a problem with your post, although I still don't agree with a word. You're clearly not as stupid as he is.
      i hope it rains on the planet you live on kid

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        #63
        Originally posted by BFG View Post
        I didn't say you couldn't, I merely pointed out that you weren't in a position to as you don't know Gascoigne or what's happened to him in his life but why let things as silly as facts and knowledge get in the way of a good demonisation eh?
        funny how people who dont agree with others are twerps,****s etc etc

        still liverpool fans ... best in the world...

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          #64
          Oh we get all sorts of weather buck. You'd love it.
          "My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
            there's a world of difference between real mental illness and some of the stuff people are coming out with. It strikes me that Gazza's alcohol problem is just a way to try and neutralise the underlying (real problem which is causing the illness)problem. Some people will just never understand what a traumatic event can do to some people with poor wiring (or even good wiring) until it happens to them.

            A lot of people with alcoholism are using it to try and escape the real problems and this leads to more serious problems.
            too easy for someone psyciatrist to say your in depression etc etc
            i think its lost on some people how easy and covenient it is to say or make out your mad to cover being what you really are

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              #66
              Originally posted by elvoz View Post
              too easy for someone psyciatrist to say your in depression etc etc
              i think its lost on some people how easy and covenient it is to say or make out your mad to cover being what you really are


              Which is what?
              "My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.

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                #67
                Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post
                FFS, how ****ing ignorant.

                The bloke is mentally ill and has been mentally ill since he watched his best mate get killed when they were both seven years old.

                Granted he's made bad mistakes - I can only assume the holier-than-thou ****ers in this thread queuing up to condemn Gascoigne have never ****ed anything up in their perfect lives.
                really? **** i didnt know that.

                Obviously we dont really get much news about the bloke over here.

                I thought he was just an aggressive alky
                "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by elvoz View Post
                  who says he has been mentally ill for 30 years fella ?
                  he is ill when it suits - like so many similar
                  he saw his friend die - ok thats sad but worse things happen
                  and its like saying you were abused as a kid and so your ****ed up - its utter ****e
                  the fella needs to get a grip of himself

                  i realise thats not the way of many on here who seem to want to molly coddle anyone or anything mind

                  ****ing hell, your a mentalist
                  "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                  "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
                    Some people are so ignorant to mental illness it's beyond belief. If your chemical balance is ****ed it isn't your fault. Narrowmindedness, a blessing in disguise ey.
                    ****, we agree on another thing

                    Ive seen it happen recently to my girlfriends old man. He's a shadow of his former self....its incredibly sad
                    "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                    "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                      #70
                      The part where he says he thinks that being abused as a child won't **** you up is unbelievable.
                      "My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by BFG View Post
                        The part where he says he thinks that being abused as a child won't **** you up is unbelievable.
                        this bloke is a serial pest...i dont know why he is still on this forum TBH.
                        "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                        "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
                          Some people are so ignorant to mental illness it's beyond belief. If your chemical balance is ****ed it isn't your fault. Narrowmindedness, a blessing in disguise ey.
                          Actually, that's not necessarily true. There are a lot of people who have abused drugs to the point where it is their fault. Gazza has abused drugs for decades.
                          Having said that, aportioning blame is pointless, Gazza should be helped and the media should stop this ****in freak show and stop leeching off this man for a ****in second of his life.
                          Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                          (1995)
                          "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Harveybirdman View Post
                            this bloke is a serial pest...i dont know why he is still on this forum TBH.
                            tbh mate your a bit of a knob your a big man the other side of a pc with your insults - you must be the cock of this board eh

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by BFG View Post
                              The part where he says he thinks that being abused as a child won't **** you up is unbelievable.
                              nope i said just because people are abused doesnt mean they will go onto do the same

                              still your girls carry on with your love in

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                                Actually, that's not necessarily true. There are a lot of people who have abused drugs to the point where it is their fault. Gazza has abused drugs for decades.
                                Having said that, aportioning blame is pointless, Gazza should be helped and the media should stop this ****in freak show and stop leeching off this man for a ****in second of his life.
                                Of course certain drugs don't help, mainly hash but alcohol won't **** up your chemical balance(permanently).

                                You are right, drugs are the main cause but what I should have said is that people don't realise what can happen withn drugs and when it ****s you it's usually permanent to some degree

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