Pepe Reina

[Kenneth]

I wouldn't call it panicking to be concerned about the prospect.

Ok, if he wants to go then let him go. But the concern is it's not easy to get a keeper as good as he is, even if he hasn't been quite at his best at times. You can lose an outfield player and there are a few who options who can 'step up'. Replacing a first choice keeper is more risky.

James, Friedel, Westerveld, Dudek. Some of them were quite good from time to time but if they were all at their peak and in the squad now, Reina would still be first choice.

That may or may not be true, i'd propbably say that it isnt, but if we did play any of that list at their peaks now I doubt we'd be in a worse position in the league. It may be more risky to replace a keeper, but we seem to have managed to do it repeatedly without dire consequences. Same for most top clubs.

[danperkins]

£8m would be abysmal. We signed him for £6m FFS! Factor in wild inflation (in football), he's more experienced now, still has 10 years left - we should be looking at a minimum of £15m. De Gea cost more than that and he was just a kid with potential, and Reina is rated ahead of him in Spain.

[Leyton388]

Known Ayre we will settle for £4m and some barca c teamer on a loan for 12 months who will get no where near the first team.

Big wages saved and some no mark player on loan with barca paying 80% of his wage

The loan arranger strikes again.

[little dave hedgehog]

Known Ayre we will settle for £4m and some barca c teamer on a loan for 12 months who will get no where near the first team.

The loan arranger strikes again.

i may be wrong, but as far as i can remember this has literally never happened

[Mattshark]

i may be wrong, but as fast as i can remember this has literally never happened

Just random and baseless criticism of Ayre.

[Zapater]

I'd like us to look at Vicente Guaita as a replacement if Reina does leave, apparently he will become available. Barca are linked with him as an alternative.

[Leyton388]

i may be wrong, but as fast as i can remember this has literally never happened

I'm afraid on this occasion matt is right. It's never happened. I'm Just feeling rather pessimistic about losing reina.

[Neil Young]

That may or may not be true, i'd propbably say that it isnt, but if we did play any of that list at their peaks now I doubt we'd be in a worse position in the league. It may be more risky to replace a keeper, but we seem to have managed to do it repeatedly without dire consequences. Same for most top clubs.

Wow, I can't believe anyone can (a) think Reina hasn't been better than all four of his immediate predecessors and (b) that it wasn't a massive relief when we finally got a top class keeper.

As for other top clubs:

Arsenal - no one good since Seaman.

Man United - no one as good as Schmeichel. Ok, so he was a great keeper but I'd rather have Reina than any of his successors.

Chelsea - Cech was a really good buy. So yeah, maybe it is quite easy. Except I wonder why they've wanted to keep him for nine years despite a couple of consecutive seasons where he really wasn't very good and even now is not back to the level he had in his first two or three seasons.

[Kenneth]

a) misrepresenting the discussion, good one. (you initially talked of 'now' and have switched to 'hasn't been'.

b) so you are in agreement then? As long as teams have decent goalkeepers then they don't really lose out much by losing their best.

[Neil Young]

F*cking hell, calm down Kennel, I wasn't misrepresenting anything. I think I've made the point in both posts that he's a good keeper despite his less than brilliant form over the last two years. I realise you don't agree, but that's exactly why I mentioned Cech's poor form, compared to his brilliance when he first joined.

And no, I don't agree. Otherwise I wouldn't be disputing with you.

[Marina]

Would like Reina to stay. That's all really.

[Neil Young]

Would like Reina to stay. That's all really.

Aaaargh, stop panicking!!!!

[Kenneth]

F*cking hell, calm down Kennel, I wasn't misrepresenting anything. I think I've made the point in both posts that he's a good keeper despite his less than brilliant form over the last two years. I realise you don't agree, but that's exactly why I mentioned Cech's poor form, compared to his brilliance when he first joined.

And no, I don't agree. Otherwise I wouldn't be disputing with you.

Ok then. The wow bit was just a random exclamation and wasn't intended to represent surprise at my post.

And why do you say that you know I don't think Reina is a good keeper?

Incidentally, I didn't actually equate concern with him leaving with panicking either.

But do carry on.

[Muddled]

Prepare to feel ripped off then. No way will we get £20m for a 30 year old who wants to join the supposedly interested club.

I think we would take between £8m-£10m (Not saying what I would take but what the club would take factoring in his current wage).

£8m would be abysmal. We signed him for £6m FFS! Factor in wild inflation (in football), he's more experienced now, still has 10 years left - we should be looking at a minimum of £15m. De Gea cost more than that and he was just a kid with potential, and Reina is rated ahead of him in Spain.

£8.4m going by the Echo's chat today.

That figure is from the rumours coming out of Barcelona; the Echo is saying we've yet to hear or receive anything.

[Tee]

Would like Reina to stay. That's all really.

In terms of the experienced players we need stability in the squad this summer please.