Pepe Reina

[RedReet]

Isn't that normal practice?

They receive an offer, once terms are agreed they notify the player and allow them to discuss and if they wish agree terms with the interested party?

I would guess Rafa saw an opportunity to work with Reina again and jumped in. I'm sure it will work out well for all in the long term.

Possibly, but you’d expect the club to have some sort of dialogue with the player to give him some say in his future. I’m sure there are plenty of transfers that are accepted without the club informing the player but obviously Pepe feels the club could have discussed it with him before accepting the deal and the departure could have been amicable.

It all seems quite trivial TBH, but it’s disappointing to see him leave on bad terms especially when it appears it could have been easily avoided.

[SB]

It would have been naive and stupid if the club if they had not acted. Reina said he might leave. You think any other big club would have acted differently?

Yeah, I don't really care tbh. Very good player for us over the years but he wanted to leave (for Barca) so he was replaced. In the end he is going to a good club with a familiar manager to play CL football and I don't believe for one minute that he was completely in the dark about the possibility of joining them. Nobody died, he'll be fondly remembered by all I'm sure.

to you both.

[EwarWoo]

Possibly, but you’d expect the club to have some sort of dialogue with the player to give him some say in his future.

Of course he had a say. They can't force a player to accept the loan. It would have been discussed and he accepted.

[RedReet]

Of course he had a say. They can't force a player to accept the loan. It would have been discussed and he accepted.

That’s the point, he probably would have accepted regardless, but for whatever reason he’s upset that the club didn’t inform him before accepting the bid. Rightly or wrongly, he feels he should have been told before the bid was accepted.

[Mattshark]

Possibly, but you’d expect the club to have some sort of dialogue with the player to give him some say in his future. I’m sure there are plenty of transfers that are accepted without the club informing the player but obviously Pepe feels the club could have discussed it with him before accepting the deal and the departure could have been amicable.

It all seems quite trivial TBH, but it’s disappointing to see him leave on bad terms especially when it appears it could have been easily avoided.

Why?

He could turn down the loan offer, he is not obliged to take it. Why would we ask him about it first?

As for showing a player loyalaly, if the manager has other plans, that is all that matters.

[Kenneth]

Possibly, but you’d expect the club to have some sort of dialogue with the player to give him some say in his future. I’m sure there are plenty of transfers that are accepted without the club informing the player but obviously Pepe feels the club could have discussed it with him before accepting the deal and the departure could have been amicable.

It all seems quite trivial TBH, but it’s disappointing to see him leave on bad terms especially when it appears it could have been easily avoided.

I don't get where you're coming from. If the issue is agreeing terms of a loan before asking pepe if he would go or not then it does seem very trivial. But pepe held all of the cards, he doesn't have to agree to go out on loan.

It could even be counter productive to discuss things with the player before clubs agree anything as it could set false expectations and cause more ill feeling. If we had dangled the carrot of a loan to rafa's Napoli and then couldn't agree a fee/wage deal then he'd be pissed and Arn people would be calling Ayre a cunt for blocking a reunion with the messiah etc.

[tufty]

It used to be about the quality of player first and foremost, but nowadays its all about the resale value when we sign players.

I grew up watching us in the 70's and 80's so was spoilt

[RedReet]

Why?

He could turn down the loan offer, he is not obliged to take it. Why would we ask him about it first?

As for showing a player loyalaly, if the manager has other plans, that is all that matters.

Then reply to Pepe and tell HIM to stop whinging.

I don't get where you're coming from. If the issue is agreeing terms of a loan before asking pepe if he would go or not then it does seem very trivial. But pepe held all of the cards, he doesn't have to agree to go out on loan.

I could even be counter productive to discuss things with the player before clubs agree anything as it could set false expectations and cause more ill feeling. If we had dangled the carrot of a loan to rafa's Napoli and then couldn't agree a fee/wage deal then he'd be pissed and Arn people would be calling Ayre a cunt for blocking a reunion with the messiah etc.

It's not where 'I'm' coming from, it's what Pepe says in his letter. I said it seems very trivial and I don't know how transfers are supposed to work, but obviously Pepe feels the club should have acted differently, even if it was only out of courtesy to let him know about the bid.


F*ck me am I sorry I started this.

[Kenneth]

Cool. Job done

[RedReet]

Phew.

I don't normally get hangovers, but todays is the closest I've came to one in a long time.

[dom9]

Why?

He could turn down the loan offer, he is not obliged to take it. Why would we ask him about it first?

As for showing a player loyalaly, if the manager has other plans, that is all that matters.

Fine, but then they should stop trotting out the loyalaly card in relation to players like Suarez. It's the hypocrassy which annoys me.

[RichC]

Fine, but then they should stop trotting out the loyalaly card in relation to players like Suarez. It's the hypocrassy which annoys me.

It's the nature of the beast though, rightly or wrongly all football teams play that card.

[SB]

Fine, but then they should stop trotting out the loyalaly card in relation to players like Suarez. It's the hypocrassy which annoys me.

Yeah but maybe we wouldn't have been looking to offload him if he wasn't sucking up to Barca big time? Just a thought.

[dom9]

It's the nature of the beast though, rightly or wrongly all football teams play that card.

Yes they do. And it norbs me off.

Yeah but maybe we wouldn't have been looking to offload him if he wasn't sucking up to Barca big time? Just a thought.

Was he really?

[Neil Young]

1, 2, 3, 4...

Round and round and round we spin,
To weave a wall to hem us in,
It won't be long, it won't be long
How slow and slow and slow it goes,
To mend the tear that always shows.
It won't be long, it won't be long.

It's hard enough losin'
the paper illusion
you've hidden inside,
Without the confusion
of findin' you're usin'
the crutch of the lie
To shelter your pride when you cry.

Round and round and round we spin,
To weave a wall to hem us in,
It won't be long, it won't be long
How slow and slow and slow it goes,
To mend the tear that always shows.
It won't be long, it won't be long.

Now you're movin' too slow
and wherever you go
there's another beside.
It's so hard to say no
to yourself and it shows
that you're losing inside,
When you step on your pride and you cry.

Round and round and round we spin,
To weave a wall to hem us in,
It won't be long, it won't be long
How slow and slow and slow it goes,
To mend the tear that always shows.
It won't be long, it won't be long.

How the hours will bend
through the time that you spend
till you turn to your eyes,
And you see your best friend
looking over the end
and you turn to see why,
And he looks in your eyes and he cries.

Round and round and round we spin,
To weave a wall to hem us in,
It won't be long, it won't be long
How slow and slow and slow it goes,
To mend the tear that always shows.
It won't be long, it won't be long.