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    Originally posted by Nicey View Post
    Well I know Irish fans dont ... I still remember that headline from one International game against Spain .. we had been unbeaten for quite some time and I think Spain spanked us 3- 1 .. the Headline read Ireland would have won if Spain did not score them goals ...

    England internationals have become a very ugly affair .. players should be proud to play for there country .. but **** me .. playing for England must be a chore
    Well playing for Ireland usually means that you come from England and had a granny who drank Guinness. I remember the old joke that FAI stands for Find Another Irishman. So many of their players are not actually playing for "their" country, but just one that they have a remote link to. I am more eligible to play for Ireland (Irish name and 100% Irish on both sides of the family) than John Aldridge was and I wouldn't consider Ireland to be "my" country, so there's far less pressure as I'm sure many of them couldn't give a **** if Ireland win or not, but to play at international level is too good an opportunity to turn down for players who aren't good enough to play for the country of their birth

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      Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
      Hasnt happened for a while, but it happened.

      Bananas thrown onto the pitch, FFS. Utterly moronic cavemen cunts.
      Bananas were thrown on the pitch at Anfield - which I saw with my own eyes - at John Barnes when he was taking corners in his Watford days. And who can fail to be amused by the witty chant heard in the 70s whenever the opposition had a black player "Hey you, Chester Zoo" and, when West Brom had the likes of Cunningham, Regis etc and were getting a pasting at Anfield "Where's your niggers now?" But we've got the best fans in the world haven't we? Not like those moronic England fans at all

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        Originally posted by Redspin View Post
        Bananas were thrown on the pitch at Anfield - which I saw with my own eyes - at John Barnes when he was taking corners in his Watford days. And who can fail to be amused by the witty chant heard in the 70s whenever the opposition had a black player "Hey you, Chester Zoo" and, when West Brom had the likes of Cunningham, Regis etc and were getting a pasting at Anfield "Where's your niggers now?" But we've got the best fans in the world haven't we? Not like those moronic England fans at all
        I dont subscribe to that theory at all, i find it cringeworthy in truth.

        I dont think we're anywhere near as bad as Ingerlund fans nowadays, though.

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          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
          Only really the large scale racism has been left behind (I guess there's probably still some BNP-type fractions), the violence and trashing things is still happening there were a couple of reports last week about England fans smashing up some open air viewing areas in England While this may be different to the travelling supporters I'm not sure that has been left behind.
          Same **** happens in most of europe. Stabbings in italy, riots and fighting in France, Germany and Holland, racism in Spain.

          It's no defence, but if your going to turn your back on your own country, understand that we're nothing special in our ****-ups. Football has the widest pull of all sports, especially with the lower classes and we all have our share of dickheads spoiling it for the rest.
          "that is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it" - Mr A.Fergusson, Oct 2011

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            Originally posted by Redspin View Post
            Well playing for Ireland usually means that you come from England and had a granny who drank Guinness. I remember the old joke that FAI stands for Find Another Irishman. So many of their players are not actually playing for "their" country, but just one that they have a remote link to. I am more eligible to play for Ireland (Irish name and 100% Irish on both sides of the family) than John Aldridge was and I wouldn't consider Ireland to be "my" country, so there's far less pressure as I'm sure many of them couldn't give a **** if Ireland win or not, but to play at international level is too good an opportunity to turn down for players who aren't good enough to play for the country of their birth
            I was reading Tony Cascarino's autobiography. At full time in the Italy (1) Ireland (0) WC 1990 QF, the then Taoiseach (pronounced "tea shock" and Gaelic for Prime Minister), Charles Haughey, went into the dressing room to congratulate the players on reaching the QF, doing the country proud etc.. Haughey completed his speech and left the dressing room. Cascarino asked Andy Townsend "Who the hell is he?" and Townsend responded "Not sure, think he owns a tea shop in Dublin."
            Substance > Style

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              Originally posted by ronanm View Post
              I was reading Tony Cascarino's autobiography. At full time in the Italy (1) Ireland (0) WC 1990 QF, the then Taoiseach (pronounced "tea shock" and Gaelic for Prime Minister), Charles Haughey, went into the dressing room to congratulate the players on reaching the QF, doing the country proud etc.. Haughey completed his speech and left the dressing room. Cascarino asked Andy Townsend "Who the hell is he?" and Townsend responded "Not sure, think he owns a tea shop in Dublin."


              That team was hilarious. Cockneys Townsend and Cascarino, Scouser Aldridge, Scot Houghton, Yorkshireman McCarthy, Manc Sheridan...
              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                Originally posted by Shaggy View Post


                That team was hilarious. Cockneys Townsend and Cascarino, Scouser Aldridge, Scot Houghton, Yorkshireman McCarthy, Manc Sheridan...
                True, but Sheedy, Staunton, Bonner, Kevin Moran, Paul Mc Grath (raised in Dublin), Whelan, Sheedy, David O'Leary, Niall Quinn were Irish though!
                Substance > Style

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                  "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                    Reminds me of that scene from Mike Bassett, when they arrive at the airport in Mexico for the world cup, and the england squad spot the Ireland boys turning up...

                    "Let's hear it for the England B Team"

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                      Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                      Reminds me of that scene from Mike Bassett, when they arrive at the airport in Mexico for the world cup, and the england squad spot the Ireland boys turning up...

                      "Let's hear it for the England B Team"

                      Sure even Brazilian actors were used for most of the Irish squad during filming
                      "I will make the boys feel your support"
                      Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                        Put in a good shift this afternoon. I can see him only getting better.

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                          Originally posted by Redspin View Post
                          so there's far less pressure as I'm sure many of them couldn't give a **** if Ireland win or not, but to play at international level is too good an opportunity to turn down for players who aren't good enough to play for the country of their birth
                          Originally posted by Shaggy View Post


                          That team was hilarious. Cockneys Townsend and Cascarino, Scouser Aldridge, Scot Houghton, Yorkshireman McCarthy, Manc Sheridan...
                          Originally posted by ronanm View Post
                          True, but Sheedy, Staunton, Bonner, Kevin Moran, Paul Mc Grath (raised in Dublin), Whelan, Sheedy, David O'Leary, Niall Quinn were Irish though!
                          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                          Reminds me of that scene from Mike Bassett, when they arrive at the airport in Mexico for the world cup, and the england squad spot the Ireland boys turning up...

                          "Let's hear it for the England B Team"

                          That so called "England B Team"/"players who aren't good enough to play for the country of their birth" beat your Algerian friends 3-0 a few weeks back and played them off the park.

                          What score did the "A Team" hammer them by again, It was more likely to have finished 3-0 to Algeria from my memory

                          AND, for what it's worth, I can guarantee that we would have made far lighter work of that shiiiiiiiiiiiit group you lot are in, holy ****, like pulling teeth... give me the "England B Team" anyday
                          Last edited by certifiable; 23-06-10, 08:46 PM.

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                            Don't you just love Thierry Henry! One of the greatest players EVER!

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                              Originally posted by certifiable View Post
                              That so called "England B Team"/"players who aren't good enough to play for the country of their birth" beat your Algerian friends 3-0 a few weeks back and played them off the park.

                              What score did the "A Team" hammer them by again, It was more likely to have finished 3-0 to Algeria from my memory

                              AND, for what it's worth, I can guarantee that we would have made far lighter work of that shiiiiiiiiiiiit group you lot are in, holy ****, like pulling teeth... give me the "England B Team" anyday


                              I love it when fans of failed nations get bitter It was just a harmless joke in a film. Dont cry

                              Mate, i'm not an england fan, i couldnt care less about england - but they're comfortably miles better than any of Ireland, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland.

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                                Originally posted by Craig_H View Post


                                I love it when fans of failed nations get bitter It was just a harmless joke in a film. Dont cry

                                Mate, i'm not an england fan, i couldnt care less about england - but they're comfortably miles better than any of Ireland, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland.

                                Comfortably miles better? The Evidence would say otherwise
                                Considering Ireland's size imo I'd safely say we're a match for Engerland.
                                You've multiple times the population and yet consistently do poorly in International competition. Taking the above into consideration, your "Failed nations" description of all the other "home nations" is a beauty

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