England World Cup bid

[PTP]

It's true. This has done the rounds on the www before and it's true. He has a ****ing adam's apple and those tits are as fake as Nicey's username

**** it so what -

[red g]

What FIFA should do is to let say 25 ex football players and managers decide who gets it and not some people that really don't know what you really need to host a world cup.

Then what is best for football would win.

Good idea, people like blatter, platini and backenbauer involved ........

[Kenneth]

So I hear Blatter gave a team talk to the committee members immediately before the vote, reminding them of corruption allegations in the British media, ie, told them don't vote for Enland. What a farcical process. The biggest problem with FIFA is that it's controlled by foreigners. No wonder it is corrupt.

[Kenneth]

'Lots of women have adams apples'

What next? 'Some women have penises' ?

Craig in being factually incorrect shocker

[CJ]

for me there are a few points

if Fifa only want to award it to places where it will push football then why not say so. then Established countries wont waste their time and money until they have a chance. I get that fifa will want to expand football globally. i think that maybe it should be shared every other one an established country every other one a developing one or maybe every three ie one south america one europe one for the future etc. but be upfront an d honest about it.

If they want to award it to one for the future then why did anyone vote for us, holland/belguim or Spain/Protugal. it doesnt make sense to vote for any if you want one to develop. 2 votes for us one of them being given by us is a bit of a joke when we have the best technical bid.

everyone blaming the bbc for scuppering our chances should remember that they exposed corruption. Portillo on this weak said how he thought it showed how peoples (i think he meant those involved in the bid) moral compass had gone. They are corrupt and perhaps we shouldnt want to be involved in that corruption

[Exiled_red]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...549544,00.html

Anson - Fifa blame media
Bid chief executive admits future attempts will fail
By Rob Parrish Last updated: 3rd December 2010

Andy Anson has revealed Fifa's executive committee turned their back on England's 2018 World Cup bid because of the British media.

The chief executive of England's attempt to land the global showpiece was left stunned after defeat in the first round of voting when they gained a paltry two of the 22 ExCo votes, despite having been promised several more.

A clearly frustrated Anson, speaking at a press conference in Zurich shown live on Sky Sports News HD, went on to suggest that it would be pointless attempting to secure the tournament in future until the voting process is overhauled.

The lead up to the decision at Fifa's headquarters was overshadowed by a BBC Panorama programme which alleged corruption among members of world football's governing body, and a Sunday Times investigation into 'votes for sale'.

And while Anson does not lay any blame at the door of the media, the message he and his colleagues are getting from some of the 22 men who awarded the 2018 tournament to Russia is very different.

He said: "We have spoken to some executive committee members and they are saying to us that our media killed us.

"Now I don't believe that, I don't believe that for one minute, but that is what we are being told.

"I still find what happened hard to understand and hard to believe. We went to bed feeling confident we would get through the first round so to find out we only got two votes is tough.

"We had a formidable competitor in Russia, who knows how they were lobbying and what they were doing, but they clearly got people to vote for them.

"When Sepp Blatter came over to 10 Downing Street it was clearly what we thought was a good relationship with the Prime Minister. David Cameron, to his absolute credit, when things went wrong he could have just backed away, but he didn't."

Don't bother
And Anson insisted there would be absolutely no point attempting to land the World Cup in future unless the voting system, which places all the power in the hands of Fifa's 22 ExCo members, is changed.

He said: "I would say right now, don't bother until you know that the process is going to change to allow bids like ours to win.

"When you have the best technical bid, the fantastic inspection visit, the best economic report and, from what people told me yesterday, the best presentation, it is quite hard to stomach that that seems to count for absolutely nothing.

"Having 22 guys only voting gives them too much influence. When 22 people have the power to decide on the world's biggest sporting event that gives them a lot of power and every individual vote counts for so much.

"It makes it a very tough process and that is an issue. Fifa do need to look at that process because it makes it very easy for formidable competitors like Russia and Qatar to gain influence.

"If you look at bids like ours, like Australia, like the USA, we clearly are accountable, to the press, the public and the government. We have to do things in a straight and ethical way and I think all three of those bids will leave here with their heads held high knowing they did everything as they should do.

"I don't know what else happened, but clearly Russia and Qatar are formidable competitors."

Not quite right
Anson went on to criticise the decision to name the 2018 and 2022 hosts at the same time and believes that with so many nations involved in the process it was inevitable that votes were exchanged.

He added "Running two bids together was clearly a mistake because everyone who had a vote and a bid clearly wanted to trade that vote to help them get over the line in their particular campaign. That was a huge mistake in my mind.

"Australia had a very good bid, they got one vote. We had a very good bid, we got two votes. The USA had an unbelievably strong technical bid, they got three votes.

"Six votes between three of the strongest bids, there is something that is not quite right and that is something which needs looking at.

"You have got to open it up to all the member associations. You've got to widen the electorate.

"You should have transparency and open voting so that everyone knows who voted for whom, because I don't believe that the secret ballot actually helps transparency at all and it leads to the situation we had yesterday where people promise you something and don't deliver."

It's a complete joke, if the best technical report, the best presentation and best economic report and a very good visit count for nothing, why bother doing them, FIFA might as well just admit it is a popularity contest and do the vote straight off and save everybody the time, effort and money of putting bids together.

Also who couldn't see that 'vote trading' would happen when the decision was to be made for 2 tournaments

[red g]

of course vote trading was going to happen. thats why it was done this way.

Corrupt cunts

[Vermilion]

Ah well, their loss, the fans world wide will have to miss out on coming to Anfield to watch a world cup game. Silly Corrupt Fifa.

[tsb]

Ah well, their loss, the fans world wide will have to miss out on coming to Anfield to watch a world cup game. Silly Corrupt Fifa.

And contend with being chased around Russian cities by hooligans!

[cannotmakeit]

Yeah I read that somewhere. Cock

Before laughing it off, there is historical records that a game played in china during the 2nd century with a feather filled ball where the aim was to kick it between 2 posts. Not saying it's modern football like but it's probably what Blatter meant.

[dom9]

We invented Wiff Waff though.

[Rich]

Should change our national sport to conkers.

[Leyton388]

the world FA's or at least the european ones should just get together and **** FIFA off all together.

[spud_gun]

Loving all of the hubris on display in this thread.

There wouldn't have been a negative word spoken had England won the bid to host 2018

[Leyton388]

Loving all of the hubris on display in this thread.

There wouldn't have been a negative word spoken had England won the bid to host 2018

Its not the fact england missed out it is the manner of which they lost out.

FIFA have arguably made a major **** up with England going out at Stage 1 and with just 2 votes.

That result in itself shines a massive searchlight on them, and opens themselves up to the type of scrutiny that has been needed for years.

There is simply no way that the 2 votes for England stands up to scrutiny.

It was arguably the best bid on paper - commercially and technically - and the best presentation on the day. No one could credibly argue that the bid itself bombed.

That does not mean it had to win, but it gives massive credence to those that argue it was the result of "politics" - and "IF" the real aim all along was to give 2018 to Russia via an engineered voting process, then they screwed up badly.

If they had wanted to take away all the scrutiny, then England should have got through to the final stage, and then lost out to Russia by the odd couple of votes. No-one could then argue with the result.

FIFA could argue that the UK media "slurs" had played no part, and that FIFA bore no grudges to the free press, the likes of the Blues -v- Villa trouble had not come into it, or anything like that - they could have simply argued that it was a great bid, but it just lost out by a whisker to another great bid, and that Russia were therefore the deserving hosts.

However, the 2 votes to England does nothing but put a bloody great flashing light against the result along with a sign saying "Investigate Me" - it simply cannot stand up to scrutiny, or be explained away as a "freak" result - and the more FIFA try to explain it away, the more it will stand out as being exactly what it was - the result of a morally and procedurally corrupt system.

In way, the FIFA exec may have just signed their own death warrants - as that result now gives all those media, investigative, regulatory or other agencies the perfect excuse to unleash the dogs of war in terms of exposing FIFA for what many believe they really are.

Arguably, the gloves have just been taken off and FIFA could ultimately reap what they have sown. Here's hoping.