Andy Carroll - Best Striker in the World

[Vermilion]

Think Creams point was about the amount of money we got for him.

Fair enough, but according to JH that was to do with what Newcastle wanted for AC, if they'd have asked 20mill for AC, we'd have sold Torres for 35mill, iirc.

[Alex]

Too be honest, thats a good way of doing business in that situation. Carroll is worth £15m less than Torres. Fair assessment.

[Kenneth]

Don't agree. But I'm sure this has been covered on each of the previous 73 pages.

[Vermilion]

Too be honest, thats a good way of doing business in that situation. Carroll is worth £15m less than Torres. Fair assessment.

Now maybe, but back then ? Ok Torres was on a bad run of form, which was all put down to him wanting out, so it's fair to say any buying club would think he'd return to similar form to what he had with us when flying, but AC at 37/35mill or whatever it was, seemed an extremely inflated valuation at that time in comparison. imo.

[Vermilion]

Don't agree. But I'm sure this has been covered on each of the previous 73 pages.

But, i haven't had my say on it yet...

Edit: ok, now i have, and i feel mighty fine having done so. *runs off to Rafa thread to look for Arn*

[cream]

Now maybe, but back then ? Ok Torres was on a bad run of form, which was all put down to him wanting out, so it's fair to say any buying club would think he'd return to similar form to what he had with us when flying, but AC at 37/35mill or whatever it was, seemed an extremely inflated valuation at that time in comparison. imo.

Torres was not on a bad run, he was past his peak, we had his best years then sold him for £50m. We paid too much for Carroll, but he still may prove to be a valuable player yet. Buying a worldclass player entering his peak for £22m was a stroke of genius.

[Vermilion]

Torres was not on a bad run, he was past his peak, we had his best years then sold him for £50m. We paid too much for Carroll, but he still may prove to be a valuable player yet. Buying a worldclass player entering his peak for £22m was a stroke of genius.

But, we'd have kept him if we could, and the club did it's untmost to do just that and persuade him to stay. imo.

Genius my arse, lets not turn this into something it was most definately not, which was'nt lfc realising he was **** and moving him on for mega bucks, HE wanted out, we wanted him to stay.

[Resu]

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...-deal'?cc=5739

JWH explains the deal.

Are you now questioning the owners of the club?

This is something I have no problems doing.
Even if JWH says something doesn`t mean it`s 100% true.
He is a business man, and part of that is saying what the costumers (us) wants to hear.
I don`t think we played the Carrol game well, we paid over the top for him.

[The_weatherman]

I still think that if Carroll started higher up the pitch that Suarez then both of them + Downing would benefit and the issues caused by having Adam and Lucas as the CM partnership would be made less of a problem.

I agree, hadn't really thought about it but I agree. Carroll is a bit wasted if he is not the top striker, he should think about being in the penalty area most of the time, IMO. Suarez should do the running and Downing will have a dangerous target. Do you think they are playing this way now for Carroll to flick the ball on? Instead of being a pure goal threat.

[The Birdman]

I put truefan on ignore for several very good reasons.
Can those of you who haven't yet seen the light and done the same thing stop replying to his post's please.
Defeat's the bloody object of the ignore function if I have to read his posts with replies.

I thank you

[sean_lfc]

FLMAO, this thread, comedy gold

Special mentions go out to Mostar, Neil and MrNice, made me wee my pants lOL

[dww]

I agree, hadn't really thought about it but I agree. Carroll is a bit wasted if he is not the top striker, he should think about being in the penalty area most of the time, IMO. Suarez should do the running and Downing will have a dangerous target. Do you think they are playing this way now for Carroll to flick the ball on? Instead of being a pure goal threat.

I honestly have no idea. It could be that, it could be an effort to develop Carroll into a more rounded player. Alternatively it could just be the belief that Suarez is best as the most central attacker and we should try to get the most out of our best player (I think John Doe is of this opinion).

I don't think it would necessarily be a problem with a different setup of players (even 4-4-2 with two 'genuine' wingers) but at the minute I tend to think that all three of the main areas of the team make it harder rather than easier for one another to excel. The DMs are too close to the defense and don't break, we don't have enough targets in the box for Downing, Carroll is coming deep which both breaks continuity of passing and loses us a target up top, ......

[dom9]

[banditos]

I put truefan on ignore for several very good reasons.
Can those of you who haven't yet seen the light and done the same thing stop replying to his post's please.
Defeat's the bloody object of the ignore function if I have to read his posts with replies.

I thank you

It's actually quite surprising that the knob hasn't actually been banned (again).

[cream]

It's actually quite surprising that the knob hasn't actually been banned (again).

Why should he be banned?

He has his opinion as do you.