Andy Carroll - Best Striker in the World

[spider-neil]

I think it's the worst transfer of all time, yeah. Anywhere. Typical that it's us FFS.

If we'd only taken Sturridge as part of the Torres deal, we'd have Suarez, Sturridge and probably 20m in change.

[Shaggy]

I agree. You could make a case for #1 in the history of world football. There have been other huge flops but they were on players who had shown genuine ability for more than 6 months prior to their transfer.

I think it's the worst transfer of all time, yeah. Anywhere. Typical that it's us FFS.

[Kenneth]

I think he's in the top 1 mate.

I agree. You could make a case for #1 in the history of world football. There have been other huge flops but they were on players who had shown genuine ability for more than 6 months prior to their transfer.

[Shaggy]

but I think, that we (fans) can leave this behind now. 15mil is best we can get for andy. let's be fair, he was probably in the top5 worst PL transfers ever (if we look at the price).

I think he's in the top 1 mate.

[lickedlollipop]

A truly insane transfer. So depressing and frustrating. To think most of us could and would genuinely have spent that money better than Kenny and Comolli did.

but I think, that we (fans) can leave this behind now. 15mil is best we can get for andy. let's be fair, he was probably in the top5 worst PL transfers ever (if we look at the price).

[Mattshark]

Look at the 2nd goal v Newcastle. Sturridge holds off a defender and then makes a perfectly weighted cushioned pass for Countiho, he then spins and ridiculous pace makes a bee line for goal to recieve the Coutinho pass and play the ball perfectly for Henderson. A perfectly executed counter attacking goal. I don't think Carroll would be able to do that in a million years but I do think playing to his (Carroll) strengths he would score a bucket load of goals.

Like West Ham?

[Fredo]

Thanks for the memories Andy.

So true.

[Shaggy]

This really sticks in my mind for some reason.
Andy Carroll top class dribbling - YouTube

[spider-neil]

Look at the 2nd goal v Newcastle. Sturridge holds off a defender and then makes a perfectly weighted cushioned pass for Countiho, he then spins and ridiculous pace makes a bee line for goal to recieve the Coutinho pass and play the ball perfectly for Henderson. A perfectly executed counter attacking goal. I don't think Carroll would be able to do that in a million years but I do think playing to his (Carroll) strengths he would score a bucket load of goals.

[Lee]

This really sticks in my mind for some reason.
Andy Carroll top class dribbling - YouTube

[spud_gun]

The entire Carroll deals strikes me as something that you'd read on 419eater (the site on which the Nigerian scammers being made to do ridiculous things)

I can imagine the scene in the Newcastle boardroom on the day we put our inital bid in for Carroll

'Wayaye Mike yer neeva gonna beeleve this but them Scousers have onlay gon an bid 30 meelion for wor Andy'

'Forra laugh pet tell em we want 35meelion'

'Wayaye Mike yer neeva gonna beeleve this but them Scousers have onlay gon an agreed to pay 35 meelion for wor Andy'

'Forra laugh pet tell em we want a 25% sell on clause on any profit they make on the deal and we want a picture of John Henry and Dalglish in purple pants with Sports Direct tattoos on their navels and erm....we also want a bowl of purple, only purple, m&m's at the office by 5:03 or the deal is off'

'Wayaeee Mike they've agreed to all our conditions....

[Kenneth]

This really sticks in my mind for some reason.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7ZCF3nBIPk"]Andy Carroll top class dribbling - YouTube[/ame]

[Sarb]

A truly insane transfer. So depressing and frustrating. To think most of us could and would genuinely have spent that money better than Kenny and Comolli did.

Yep.Remember the summer when we chased Downing for months and finally signed him towards the end of the window. Totally depressing. Not sure what Kenny was thinking buying the players he did that summer

[Neil Young]

A truly insane transfer. So depressing and frustrating. To think most of us could and would genuinely have spent that money better than Kenny and Comolli did.

I'd have bought a house and a few bikes and saved the rest.

[Neil Young]

Without amortising and P&I...zzzz

Just forget he has ever played for us for a brief second. Today is the day we bought Andy Carroll. We payed 35m. Ok so a minute later we are now in the present.
We had a pot with 35m in it, it's now empty, after we sell him to West Ham how much dough is in the pot?

I wouldn't for a moment suggest he was anything more than pretty crap for us and that £35m seems ridiculous compared to deals like, for instance, the one that got us Suárez. It adds nothing though to talk about the money spent (or wasted) in any detail if we don't know how accounting works.

It's the fallacy of detail really; it's used to bolster an argument that he was a bad buy and a poor player. Well, ok, but no one here really disagrees with that. So let's just say that and not get into speculation about how the club's accountants will choose to calculate the loss and offset it against tax liabilities or whatever.

Or if we have to then let's not just ignore what someone who does know what they're talking about because it doesn't fit our simplistic - and simply wrong - notions of accounting. Especially when it changes nothing of substance in the original contention which is that Carroll was not worth the money we paid and have lost, however much that might be.