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  • hoeyd2
    Benitez
    • Aug 2006
    • 855

    #5911
    For what it's worth, on the surface it doesn't seem that crazy. Three-person arbitration panels are typically picked just like that. Each side gets one pick, then either the two sides discuss and agree on a third, or else the first two arbitrators pick a third one themselves. I think there is a pretty limited number of possibilities at CAS (wikipedia says there are only 22 members), so it's not totally out of the ordinary that City's pick for the third arbitrator was someone UEFA didn't mind having on the panel.

    Edit: Sorry, this was in reply to the thing about City picking two members of the panel. I'm inept.
    Last edited by hoeyd2; 28-07-20, 08:42 PM. Reason: forgot the quotey bit

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    • Buzzo
      Donald Buzzworth
      • Jun 2010
      • 67435

      #5912
      Dodgy as ****.

      Verdict that kept Manchester City in Europe delivers some glancing blows

      Cas judgment outlines reasons for finding in favour of City, but shows the club’s case wasn’t as ‘irrefutable’ as it made out

      David Conn

      So Manchester City’s hierarchy won the war they waged furiously against European football’s governing body Uefa, but the reality of the victory does not quite match the claims they made during their long campaign.

      The panel at the court of arbitration for sport decided 2-1 in City’s favour to overturn the comprehensive guilty finding and two-year Champions League ban imposed by Uefa’s Club Financial Control Body (CFCB) in February, but the published judgment nevertheless exposes a core of contradictions in the club’s case. In May 2019, after the CFCB’s “investigatory chamber” (IC) referred charges to the “adjudicatory chamber” (AC) that City – owned by Sheikh Mansour of the Abu Dhabi ruling family – overstated sponsorships by the state airline Etihad and telecoms giant Etisalat, the club publicly accused the IC’s chairman, Yves Leterme, of bad faith and “a basic lack of due process”.

      City have never explained what evidence supported this serious public criticism, or the allegations of bias made against Leterme and all members of the IC, AC and Uefa itself after the AC’s guilty decision in February. But the club’s statement said: “The accusation of financial irregularities remains entirely false and the CFCB IC referral ignores a comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence provided by Manchester City.”

      The Cas panel’s full 93-page judgment does not quite support that: City’s hierarchy did not provide “a comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence”; they refused requests for evidence and witnesses and obstructed the investigation. Criticising City for that, the judgment even states that the club itself accepted there were legitimate grounds for the charges: “The panel is of the view that Uefa by no means filed frivolous charges against MCFC. As also acknowledged by MCFC, there was a legitimate basis to prosecute MCFC.”

      While they did overturn the AC’s decision by a majority, the panel did not actually find that City’s alleged financial irregularities were “entirely false”. They found one of the AC’s key findings “time-barred”: that in 2012 and 2013 Etisalat had not paid £15m in sponsorships, which in 2014 City declared to the CFCB when making a settlement under the financial fair play rules. The judgment recites the finding that Mansour’s company vehicle for owning City, the Abu Dhabi United Group, had made or “caused to be made” those payments instead. It also notes that the CFCB did not have a fully “complete and accurate picture of two payments to MCFC in 2012 and 2013” when the settlement was agreed.

      The panel overturned the guilty finding relating to Etisalat because two of their members decided that any breach of rules had not happened in 2014 when, the AC and IC found, City’s financial information provided for the settlement was false. Instead, presumably to the bemusement of the IC, AC and Uefa’s lawyers, the Cas majority decided any breach happened in 2012 and 2013, when the payments were made. CFCB rules require breaches to be prosecuted within five years – even if the evidence only emerged in November 2018 when the German magazine Der Spiegel published “leaks” of City’s emails. So, the Cas panel decided the Etisalat charges were “time-barred” when the IC prosecuted them in May 2019.

      City’s complaint that they presented the IC with “a comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence” stood for longer than a year before the details now revealed that they obstructed the investigation. The Cas panel found that City’s hierarchy declined to provide emails and other documents when asked by the IC and AC, and refused requests for executives to appear as witnesses.

      They did provide more testimony to Cas, with City director Simon Pearce, and former Etihad chief executive James Hogan, among others, giving evidence, and with the Etisalat charges timed out, the panel decided that the AC’s finding that Mansour had also substantially subsidised the Etihad sponsorship was “not established”.

      More broadly than the precise legal findings, this toxic saga has featured an aggressive, ruthless approach from City’s ownership, which has deeply and unnecessarily poisoned relations with Uefa. Of course it was grim for City to have their internal emails exposed – the club saying they must have been hacked; Der Spiegel’s source, Rui Pinto, denying it, as he now denies criminal charges against him in Portugal for hacking in relation to other leaks. Nevertheless, it was shocking to see the email from the club’s lawyer, Simon Cliff, who wrote that City’s chairman, Khaldoon al-Mubarak, had told Uefa’s then general secretary Gianni Infantino, that he would not accept a financial sanction for exceeding the FFP permitted €45m loss when assessed in 2014. Cliff said: “[Mubarak] would rather spend 30 million on the 50 best lawyers in the world to sue [Uefa] for the next 10 years.”

      Ultimately, based on the information City provided – apparently including the stated £15m sponsorships from Etisalat – Uefa and City then agreed a settlement.

      Cliff also sent a tasteless email reacting to the death of Jean-Luc Dehaene, the then IC chair, and like Leterme a former prime minister of Belgium, writing with reference to the seven-person IC: “1 down, 6 to go.” Mortifying as it must have been for him to see that private bad joke held up to the light of day, and insistent as City were not to dignify an alleged hack with any response, they might just have dealt with that by apologising.

      The hierarchy’s scornful statement after the AC’s guilty decision was in effect contradicted within days in an in-house video interview with their own chief executive, Ferran Soriano. City had again claimed the process was biased, naming and blaming Leterme, and refusing to recognise any CFCB independence from Uefa. “Simply put, this is a case initiated by Uefa, prosecuted by Uefa and judged by Uefa,” the club said.

      Giving an expanded reaction, Soriano explicitly did recognise a distinction between Uefa and the CFCB. “We are not talking about the whole of Uefa, which is an association of [Europe’s national football] associations,” he said. He explained that he knows many people working at Uefa, “for the benefit of the clubs of Uefa like ours, but also for the benefit of football … Uefa is much bigger than this FFP chamber.”

      Loyalists to Uefa’s FFP system, which has deterred European clubs from spending beyond their means on wages and hugely improved the game’s overall financial stability, reject that anyway. The CFCB process is integral to Uefa, and is set up to be as independent as possible so that the FFP compliance processes are credible. Whatever, Soriano’s acknowledgment of Uefa as a decent governing body never punched through the months of denunciation. Some fans arrived at City’s next Champions League match – privileged heights to which the Abu Dhabi mega-money has taken the club – with banners including “Uefa Scum” and “Uefa Mafia”.

      Since Mansour took over City in 2008, Mubarak’s regime has been exceptionally skilled at balancing their unchallengeable spending – £1.3bn from the ownership – with good public relations: celebrating the club’s heritage and supporter loyalty, embracing good causes, investing in the community. In their war with Uefa, that slipped. City’s ownership was revealed as a group prepared to wave millions at lawyers to hammer European football’s governing body for trying to uphold its rules. City’s hierarchy have won that war, but apart from their own supporters, whom they encouraged to join in, their approach has not done much to win friends or influence people.
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      • Exiled_red
        Paisley
        • Nov 2007
        • 55280

        #5913
        Originally posted by Buzzo
        Dodgy as ****.
        Ultimately it was UEFA's incompetence that meant that they went unpunished.

        Hopefully the FA/PL will punish them harshly given that the EFL are punishing Derby and Sheffield Wednesday essentially under similar rulings, but I won't hold my breathe...
        The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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        • baitman
          Dad's Cabs
          • Sep 2011
          • 27745

          #5914
          Originally posted by Exiled_red
          Ultimately it was UEFA's incompetence that meant that they went unpunished.

          Hopefully the FA/PL will punish them harshly given that the EFL are punishing Derby and Sheffield Wednesday essentially under similar rulings, but I won't hold my breathe...
          More likely, the size of the bung has meant uefa have left it so long as to then be able to use the time frame get out clause as a reason for not gutting the doping cunts.
          Do uefa have any for for being dodgy...
          removing all the weak links makes us stronger

          too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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          • Irishnev
            Paisley
            • Aug 2006
            • 18294

            #5915
            [ame="https://twitter.com/marcainenglish/status/1288499687587282944"]https://twitter.com/marcainenglish/status/1288499687587282944[/ame]

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            • Sus
              Dalglish
              • Jul 2006
              • 3637

              #5916
              Don't know anything about him, anyone seen him play?

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              • Fosterbloke
                Run the Jewels
                • Dec 2009
                • 39095

                #5917
                Couldn't care less to be honest.
                Was mu

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                • Roboklopp
                  Cuboid Humanoid
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 30548

                  #5918
                  A turd no doubt.
                  3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                  • Irishnev
                    Paisley
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 18294

                    #5919
                    Originally posted by Sus
                    Don't know anything about him, anyone seen him play?
                    He’s not Leroy Sane - he is a very highly rated wide player and was wanted by both Barca and Real. He had only a year left in his contract and given that Valencia are financially in the **** that’s still a good price for him.

                    We were strongly linked in the past - Pep does like his wide players and full backs so I am sure he’ll improve him

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                    • Roboklopp
                      Cuboid Humanoid
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 30548

                      #5920
                      FFS. What a cunt.
                      3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                      • Irishnev
                        Paisley
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 18294

                        #5921
                        Originally posted by Roboklopp
                        FFS. What a cunt.

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                        • Sus
                          Dalglish
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 3637

                          #5922
                          Thanks Nev, helpful re Torres - Pep really does like his wide players

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                          • Shaggy
                            Unidentified Rascal
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 135533

                            #5923
                            [ame]https://twitter.com/SamiMokbel81_DM/status/1288780111114915840[/ame]
                            Thanks very much for being

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                            • rodo
                              Shankly
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 9708

                              #5924
                              average player
                              Oh I say his vision there was lovely

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                              • RichC
                                Meh
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 37415

                                #5925
                                Good signing, think he'll compliment Laporte quite well.

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