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    Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
    Andy Carroll did the minimum you would expect of a striker and had the desired impact you would want from an impact sub.

    As it is, he never made a telling difference, because we still lost.
    I thought he was unplayable that final. Also, towards the end of the season he was showing some good form. Downing never showed good form.

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      I hate that cliche. It doesn't even make sense.

      If he was "unplayable" surely he would have scored 33 goals and John Terry would be a sobbing, blubbering mess?

      He made a bit of a difference in a cup final that was lost in the first half sure, but he wasn't ever £35m worth of striker.

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        Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
        I hate that cliche. It doesn't even make sense.

        If he was "unplayable" surely he would have scored 33 goals and John Terry would be a sobbing, blubbering mess?

        He made a bit of a difference in a cup final that was lost in the first half sure, but he wasn't ever £35m worth of striker.
        OK. Don't believe I said once he was worth 35m. I was only referring to some of the good form Carroll showed towards the end of the season. Neither of them are anywhere near worth what we paid for them but if your comparing the two, in my opinion Downing was an even worse signing than Carroll.

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          My God he was poor last night. I am not sure if it was due to instruction but his positioning last night was extremely poor. Everything dangerous from them came down the left channel, all 3 goals came from the left. He looked labored at times and his tracking back was non existent.

          I have been one of the people who has thought he has gotten a rough ride of late, but my god, that was poor. Surely Breno can find a way to bring back that footballer we signed, he was out best player the first have of the season he signed now hes our weakest in our reserve team .. talk about a fall from grace
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            Glen Jo will have to play left back for a while.
            Are we winning?

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              Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
              I was guilty of being taken in by the Enrique bandwagon - but, well - he's ****e.

              Riise was a far better player than him, the sad fact is that Riise has been just about the best left back we have had in the last 20 years.

              Think about it

              Dicks
              Bjornebye (ok LWB)
              Staunton
              Matteo
              Ziege
              Carragher
              Arbeloa?
              Dossena
              Insua
              Johnson?
              Enrique

              Don't know if you can strictly call Arbeloa a left back though. Johnson playing there has weakened right back.

              Thats a **** list. We've been weak at left back for a generation!
              I can't believe you forgot our CL winning left back

              ... step forward Djimi Traore
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                There is another........

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                  Originally posted by danperkins View Post
                  Was shocking tonight, his constant dilly dallying with the ball is so annoying, often loses it too & his defensive positioning is awful. Gutted as i thought we were finally onto a winner at LB... sadly not.
                  I have to agree with you completely regarding your comments above... I found myself screaming at him many times over during the match.. and his constant dilly dallying is more than annoying, the lad was a total liability..

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                    I find him our most frustrating player since Charlie Adam.

                    Seriously though, I think I'd rather see Robinson in the team on current form. I imagine we'll be sticking Johnson there for a while longer though.

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                      Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post


                      There is another........
                      And you also forgot the immortal Paul Konchesky (who incidentally won two England caps)

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                        Originally posted by Reece View Post
                        I find him our most frustrating player since Charlie Adam.

                        Seriously though, I think I'd rather see Robinson in the team on current form. I imagine we'll be sticking Johnson there for a while longer though.
                        It's a nightmare for us really. Kelly hasn't kicked on and holds us back IMO....he's so far from what a Rodgers full back needs to be, and at the same time it negates Glen a little bit by moving him to LB. Enrique's form has plummeted but as things stand I'm so keen to see us with a natural shape and to see Glen at right back that I'd be tempted to try Jose again on Sunday. Grim I know, given his dire performances, but I really don't want to see Johnson stuck at LB again.
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                          Clearly lacking match fitness & compounded this with foolish mistakes.

                          Disastrous game for him IMO.
                          Forwards.......

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                            Get Downing in at LB

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                              Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                              It's a nightmare for us really. Kelly hasn't kicked on and holds us back IMO....he's so far from what a Rodgers full back needs to be, and at the same time it negates Glen a little bit by moving him to LB. Enrique's form has plummeted but as things stand I'm so keen to see us with a natural shape and to see Glen at right back that I'd be tempted to try Jose again on Sunday. Grim I know, given his dire performances, but I really don't want to see Johnson stuck at LB again.
                              Enrique isn't ready for Sunday and he'd get crucified.
                              Forwards.......

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                                Originally posted by Chazza1978 View Post
                                Get Downing in at LB
                                I wouldn't argue against that tbh.
                                Forwards.......

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