Charlie Adam

[Reece]

Who do you think will miss out when Gerrard is ready to start? It sure as hell isn't going to be Lucas. Do you think all three might play?

[el matador]

when we signed charlie adam i thought it was a good signing because he would add a passing dimension to the team that we just didnt have especially when gerrard was injured.

weve probably seen him in 6 to 7 games now and i think he's a liability. theres so much to work on with him its difficult to know where to start. he's probably one of the least athletic central midfield players in the premier league and he's a liability defensively. he cant track back midfield runners and he cant tackle either but we all knew that his strengths werent going that way.

however, its going forward that he's been really disappointing. his set pieces have been really poor especially corners. he struggles to impose himself on the game preferring to do what he did at blackpool exploding in bursts but unable to dictate the tempo of the game for any meaningful period of time.

he should be the one pulling the strings in midfield looking to make things happen by switching the angle of attack constantly by getting the wide men involved and playing the fullbacks in but he doesnt do any of that. he trys ridiculous hollywood passes that nine times out of 10 just concede possession. he has to get out of the mentality where he thinks he's the main man and he's got to start thinking of being a bid part in a big machine.

the athleticism the fitness team can work on but he also needs a change of attitude by keeping things simple. stop trying stupid passes, keep the ball moving and get the important men on the ball in the right places.

i also dont think he can play in a midfield 2 and he has to be playing in a trio where the other two complement his strengths and cover his weaknesses. we have a diamond that needs a hell of a lot of polishing.

[JohnDoe]

Who do you think will miss out when Gerrard is ready to start? It sure as hell isn't going to be Lucas. Do you think all three might play?

Kenny experimented with a bent midfield four during pre season and I can see him using a similar formation against the mancs, with Downing or Bellamy as a lone wide man switching flanks, two strikers and a middle three.

-----------Reina
Kelly Carragher Agger Enrique
-----------Lucas
-----Gerrard----Adam
----------------------Downing
------Suarez----Carroll

This is strong enough defensively to carry us through.

[Reece]

Cool, didn't see that earlier post. I'd be happy with that lineup. Although I'm not sure I'd leave Kuyt out against the Mancs.

It's nice to have these problems for a change though!

[BootRoom]

Kenny experimented with a bent midfield four during pre season and I can see him using a similar formation against the mancs, with Downing or Bellamy as a lone wide man switching flanks, two strikers and a middle three.

-----------Reina
Kelly Carragher Agger Enrique
-----------Lucas
-----Gerrard----Adam
----------------------Downing
------Suarez----Carroll

This is strong enough defensively to carry us through.

No it's not, there is a glaring hole on the flank that means the full back is under constant threat of being exposed. Plus having Carragher in the team forces the defenseive line closer our goal, giving more space to the opposition and making the whole game harder for ourselves.

[JohnDoe]

No it's not, there is a glaring hole on the right that means the right back is under constant threat of being exposed. Plus having Carragher in the team forces the defenseive line closer our goal, giving more space to the opposition and making the whole game harder for ourselves.

It will only look like this when we attack. Having three central midfielders means there is always one who can cover a flank when needed. It's similar defensively to playing 4-3-3, just with two strikers and a designated wide man.

[Arn]

A manager don't get every signing right. Adam should be sold as soon as possible.

He is **** defensively. We can't dominate games even when we are 11 against 10 because he is **** defensively and very slow.

We need a new Xabi and we need it as soon as possible. If you play for a team that want to finish in the top four and maybe win the league then every central midfielder must be great in defence and attack. You can't afford to carry any passenger.

I can understand now why Blackpool leaked a lot of goals. Most of us thought that all the cards he got at Blackpool was because of other players didn't do their job. Well, that isn't true because he still picks up a lot of cards.

If you want to dominate a game then you can't play him. It is as simple as that. It isn't a coincidence that we scored after he was taken off.

Right now he is a passenger.

[BootRoom]

It will only look like this when we attack. Having three central midfielders means there is always one who can cover a flank when needed. It's similar defensively to playing 4-3-3, just with two strikers and a designated wide man.

How could Adam cover ground to provide defensive support on the flank when he's struggling to be of use in the middle when he's already in position? Enrique vs. a wide player and overlapping full back with Adam scurrying over to 'help' makes no sense. Plus the system would become totally disjointed with our winger constantly changing wings and requiring a centre midfielder to cover on the opposite flank.

[Assassin]

A manager don't get every signing right. Adam should be sold as soon as possible.

He is **** defensively. We can't dominate games even when we are 11 against 10 because he is **** defensively and very slow.

We need a new Xabi and we need it as soon as possible. If you play for a team that want to finish in the top four and maybe win the league then every central midfielder must be great in defence and attack. You can't afford to carry any passenger.

I can understand now why Blackpool leaked a lot of goals. Most of us thought that all the cards he got at Blackpool was because of other players didn't do their job. Well, that isn't true because he still picks up a lot of cards.

If you want to dominate a game then you can't play him. It is as simple as that. It isn't a coincidence that we scored after he was taken off.

Right now he is a passenger.

Yet more drivel....

Enough is enough you are now on my ignore list

[Arn]

Yet more drivel....

Enough is enough you are now on my ignore list

Yet another supporter that think that Kenny can do no wrong

[Mostar]

Adam is a 3rd name in the team sheet after Suarez and Gerrard for me. For all of his weaknesses defensively, he provides us with creativity and goalscoring chances. That cannot be ignored and we need to use other players to cover for him. We have "the best defensive midfielder in the league" according to some, we can afford having him cover Adam since he usually contributes nothing offensively.

Not for me. In fact I expect him to be regular on the bench as soon as Stevie is ready to start.

No it's not, there is a glaring hole on the flank that means the full back is under constant threat of being exposed. Plus having Carragher in the team forces the defenseive line closer our goal, giving more space to the opposition and making the whole game harder for ourselves.

Absolutely. Kelly/GJ would be on his own in that type of set up. We would be extremely vulnerable and the opposition would attack that flank time and time again.

[destinydude]

A manager don't get every signing right. Adam should be sold as soon as possible.

He is **** defensively. We can't dominate games even when we are 11 against 10 because he is **** defensively and very slow.

We need a new Xabi and we need it as soon as possible. If you play for a team that want to finish in the top four and maybe win the league then every central midfielder must be great in defence and attack. You can't afford to carry any passenger.

I can understand now why Blackpool leaked a lot of goals. Most of us thought that all the cards he got at Blackpool was because of other players didn't do their job. Well, that isn't true because he still picks up a lot of cards.

If you want to dominate a game then you can't play him. It is as simple as that. It isn't a coincidence that we scored after he was taken off.

Right now he is a passenger.

Funny this because you didn't suggest the same thing with Dossena and Keane.

[Assassin]

Even without being able to see your reply. I am 100% sure it is a crock of ****

[Chris]

Adam should be sold as soon as possible.

Oh shut up.

We can't dominate games even when we are 11 against 10 because he is **** defensively and very slow.

Where do you make up this **** from? We've already dominated games with him in the team!!

We need a new Xabi and we need it as soon as possible.

How many league titles has he won in his career? He's obviously a brilliant player but this "new Xabi or no one" drivel is exactly that, drivel.

If you play for a team that want to finish in the top four and maybe win the league then every central midfielder must be great in defence and attack.

Well the current champions certainly prove that theory wrong as none of their CM's are great at anything let alone defensively and offensively. But they are effecient and make up for their central midfield faults in defence, wide areas and upfront.

I can understand now why Blackpool leaked a lot of goals.

Yes, we know, it was all Charlie Adam's fault.

If you want to dominate a game then you can't play him. It is as simple as that.

Its not as simple as that, im not his biggest fan but that is utter garbage as shown by the Bolton and Stoke games.

Have you got any comment on how good yesterdays win was? All you seem to do is criticise scousers, arse lick Benitez and now you've got another whipping boy.

[el matador]

Arn... i wouldnt go that far because he does have a lot of quality but we need to work on his fitness and his attitude. his passing is very good not that he's shown it consistently at liverpool but from past experience his left foot is a magic wand.

there is no comparison to alonso because xabi's world class and was from a very young age. charlie adam has the tools but currently his mentality and the system we play isnt correct.

remember he only cost £7m and we could get £10m back for him no problem. we cant write players off that quickly but first and foremost we have to change the system to suit him and move to a 4231 with him and lucas holding, downing left, suarez right and gerrard behind carroll. that change might also suit henderson too because playing wide right just doesnt suit the lad.