Racism in Football

[Kenneth]

[Helios Creed]

I'm talking about the individual!

Are you telling me a person insulted for having a big nose or for being ugly or fat can't feel worse about it than an individual black person who gets called 'Blackie' for instance ?

People kill themselves over such things ffs, are made to feel like they are inferior human beings because of how they look.

I am clearly not saying it is as bad as racism in society, just that to an individual it can be as damaging or even worse.

That was my point, i don't see how it can be argued. Subjugation doesn't just happen to races, it happens to individuals too, if that's how they feel when abused.

a racist insult, especially to black people, carries the extra weight of hundreds of years of injustice and suffering.

Trying to put in in terms that can be more easily identified with, possibly it's like insulting a scouser compared to insulting a scouser using a reference to Hillsborough. The reaction would be far more angry or hurt because of the extra weight and history that comes with the reference?

[little dave hedgehog]

What is a black school?

just what it sounds like. a school that has survived in one form our another since the days of segregation. named for a famous black thinker and until recent times only populated by black students and teachers. also, located in a part of town where there are very few white families. it's changed a lot, it's now one of the best schools nationally, but racial integration is still something they take very seriously since the 70s. it's exactly half and half now, which is still quite a lot of black people if you're from the suburbs.

[Helios Creed]

just what it sounds like. a school that has survived in one form our another since the days of segregation. named for a famous black thinker and until recent times only populated by black students and teachers. also, located in a part of town where there are very few white families. it's changed a lot, it's now one of the best schools nationally, but racial integration is still something they take very seriously since the 70s. it's exactly half and half now, which is still quite a lot of black people if you're from the suburbs.

we have no conception of segregation over here, which is why some of us are far less aware of how bad racism can be -imagine that kind of humiliation and knowing that if you complain about it, it's you that will be arrested.

But while over there it was basically overt and legal (although for that school it worked in its favour) - here it has always been illegal, but still exists and is more subtle and often institutionalised. A striking example a while ago was that in a country that had far too recently finally abolished legalised segregation, you had an extremely high ranking and prominent black member of the military appearing on tv during the first Gulf War - at that stage over here, although we had had equal employment rights for years, as far as I know there were no, or very few, black officers of any rank in our forces, let alone a Chief of Staff or whatever.

[little dave hedgehog]

i wouldn't say it worked in the school's favor. it had a fairly proud tradition before, but became what it is now once they began an acceptance policy like a university and started taking kids from all races and all parts of town.

[ChesterDave]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20744570

Manchester City's Aleksandar Kolarov accused of racial abuse

Police are investigating an allegation that Manchester City player Aleksandar Kolarov racially abused Newcastle United supporters during his side's game at St James' Park.
Northumbria Police confirmed they were investigating a complaint following Saturday's match.
It is alleged Serbia international defender Kolarov, 27, made comments to fans holding an Albanian flag.

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Oh boy, I look forward to the FA trying to sensitively rule on issues relating to Serbia/Albania disputes. Bull in a china shop comes to mind on what is a very sensitive issue.

[TheElephantMan]

I wouldn't trust the FA to make sense of anything.

[Frenchie]

I wouldn't trust the FA to run a bath..

[dom9]

I think these cases should be handled by the police. And that the balance of probability is insufficient to decide guilt.

[Reece]

Gabriele Marcotti @Marcotti
KP Boateng racially abused in Milan friendly v 4th div club. Players walk off in protest.

Gabriele Marcotti @Marcotti
Milan did the right thing in walking off. Encouraging that most of crowd applauded them.

Gabriele Marcotti @Marcotti
Allegri says team will walk out again if one of their players racially abused, regardless of competition. Hopes others do the same.

[Reece]

Gabriele Marcotti @Marcotti
Milan playing friendly at Pro Patria (4th div). Few thousand fans present. Small group racially abuses black players...

Gabriele Marcotti @Marcotti
Pro Patria players twice go to try to get them to stop. Abuse continues. Boateng kicks ball at them and walks off, followed by team..

James Horncastle @JamesHorncastle
Allegri following racist abuse of Boa + others. “Italy has to improve under this POV + become a more civil, educated + intelligent country”

Gabriele Marcotti @Marcotti
... Most of stadium applauds walk off. Ref halts game (entitled to do so under new rules). Milan say will do it again if racially abused.

[Chazza]

Video here

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[Chazza]

Kevin-Prince Boateng @KPBofficial

Shame that these things still happen... #StopRacismforever

[Chazza]

Millwall are 'appalled' after fans racially abused El Hadji Diouf

Millwall are "appalled" by footage showing their supporters aiming racial abuse at Leeds striker El Hadji Diouf.

The pictures, showing Senegal international Diouf being abused during a game at The Den on 18 November, appeared on Sky Sports News.

"Like all Millwall fans and football fans generally, we're appalled by the footage we've seen," said Lions chief executive Andy Ambler.

"Clearly that behaviour is unacceptable in any football ground in the country."
Ambler added: "Sadly racism exists in our society and certain individuals want to bring it into football grounds. It's down to us in football to do more

"That day against Leeds obviously there was an allegation of abuse made online initially. We investigated it straight away.

"We interviewed stewards, police, players, we looked at the TV footage too as it was live on Sky.

"After speaking to the player [Diouf] who had the alleged abuse at him during the day, he said that he heard no abuse so that was basically at that point the end of the investigation - although we're going to open it again now."

Sports Minister Hugh Robertson added: "While we have come a long way in tackling racism in football over the last 20 years, this is not a battle that has been won."

Bolton and England Under-21 striker Marvin Sordell also previously made allegations of racial abuse towards Millwall's fans.

After doing so, a banner further abusing the 21-year-old was displayed at The Den and a 13-year-old boy was banned from the ground.

Football Association chairman David Bernstein told the Sky Sports special report he is treating allegations with the utmost importance.

"These issues bother me intensely," he said.

"They have become top of my agenda in terms of moving these things on and combating these things.

"The awareness of it could not be higher."

Football League chairman Greg Clarke added: "There's two issues. One is we have to continue to work with the clubs on our anti-racism programmes which are agreed with the FA.

"Secondly is the reticence of black players to come forward and feel comfortable in supporting it.

"If we've created an environment that doesn't support black players in confronting this issue we've done something terribly wrong."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21424773

[Tee]

In that Special Report, why did SSN bleep out the 'N' word but not the 'P' word. Mutha****ers.