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That's why, as much as I hate to say it, Fergie was great at getting average players to gel & play well as a team. There is no way Gollum will be able to do that imo...
Fergie gave such continuity to the mancs.... Moyes has his work cut out for him. But IMO they'll still pull something out of the bag in the window & still will be there and there abouts come the end of the season.
Anyone else see Moyes on Football Focus? Apparently he has been hampered in the transfer window because he's only had the job since 1st July. That he felt he needed an excuse, and that he came up with such a **** one......he's not up to this is he?
Lot of slagging of of Moyes & people saying United will struggle etc, this is the same team that won the league last year by 11 points.. people seem to forget that. I think some people envisaged United crumbled or something.
That will be up there like they are every season, they have quality & so many of their players have a winning mentality.
Anyways i'm more concerned about Spurs & Arsenal this season than i am United
I think the real indication of his reign will come in 2-3 years when has to rebuild the side.
I'm not sure that his training methods will have an alarming impact this season, unless they are really dull, and in that case, the 'Moyes effect' may hurt them sooner than they think.
The problem with this too is that if we wins trophies during the next couple of years, it is more likely to solidify his reputation at the club. Man City, Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal and ourselves have to be the ones winning the trophies and denting their challenges.
Exclusive: Blues angrily reject joint £28m Man Utd bid for Fellaini and Baines
19 Aug 2013 07:16
Club snubs derisory offers from ex-boss for highly-rated pair
Everton FC have been left outraged after Manchester United made a farcical £16m bid for Marouane Fellaini – a fortnight after his £23.5m buy-out clause expired.
Goodison chiefs were rocked by the derisory offer for their Belgium international midfielder, and further incensed when Old Trafford officials also tried to include Leighton Baines in the package for a further £12m.
The shocking £28m approach by former boss David Moyes ’ new club, believed to have been designed to unsettle Everton’s prized duo, was swiftly and angrily rejected.
But United’s offer, which was made by chief executive Ed Woodward only 48 hours before the start of the new Premier League season, is understood to have left considerable bad feeling on Merseyside – especially given that Fellaini's true market value is widely considered to be in excess of the £23.5m clause in his contract which expired on July 31.
Last week Everton boss Roberto Martinez told the ECHO that United’s first bid for Baines in June, also for £12m, was described as a final offer by the Red Devils, and this latest attempt to land the England international on the cheap would appear to contradict that stance from the reigning champions.
The Toffees are determined to keep hold of Baines, who they have repeatedly insisted is not for sale, and will be not pressured into listening to grossly under-value bids for 25-year-old Fellaini – who they would also like to remain at Goodison.
As Everton manager in 2008, Moyes paid Standard Liege an initial £15m for Fellaini – a sum which eventually rose to around £17.5m in additional payments.
Staggeringly, United’s approach last week would suggest they believe Fellaini’s value has decreased since then; despite the midfielder making 174 appearances over his five seasons at Everton so far, scoring 32 goals, and becoming an established part of the renowned Belgian national side.
Moyes has turned his interests to Fellaini after repeatedly failing in his protracted efforts to prize Cesc Fabreags from Barcelona.
So far he has only added young Uruguayan full-back Guillermo Varela to his squad, and is under pressure to show his mettle in the transfer market before the September 2 deadline.
Tony Barrett @TonyBarretTimes 18m
At Everton, David Moyes was fond of saying this: "Everton sell very expensively; that's what we do. We don't sell cheap."
Tony Barrett @TonyBarretTimes 7m
David Moyes on transfers (while at Everton): "We cannot be getting offers a week or two to go before the end of the deadline."
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Take heed of your own advice moyes
They're still going to be a force this season - RVP is still on fire and Welback took his second goal very well. If they can keep Rooney and buy a couple of decent midfielders then they'll be fine.
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