Don't understand the fuss with this. What did he say that was so wrong?
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Timing might be poor and comments might be poor but Brendan is looking for short passing, fast moving football...
Of course that style ultimately needs a focal point and an end product but Andy Carroll??
Going on loan could be the best thing for him and LFC...
Personally, I'd love to see him included with Suarez and Gerrard but maybe Brendan sees and is told a lot more than we will ever know..
Training habits, lifestyle stc...Comment
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Maybe, just maybe. And bare with me here.
Brendo might know Carroll's mentality more than anyone else, and maybe he needs a kick up the arse and it will make him perform better.
If we let him out on loan then I will be concerned, but I can't see it.The times they are a changin'.Comment
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it's a risk but if he is let go on loan for a year and does well in a team set up for a big man up front then he will be worth more than trying to off load now especially after the "english ****" comment from the club nobhead spokesperson..Comment
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Hammers keen on Carroll
Reds striker understood to have been identified as a loan target
Last Updated: July 11, 2012 7:35am
Sky Sports sources understand that West Ham United are interested in signing striker Andy Carroll on loan from Liverpool.
Brendan Rodgers earlier this week refused to rule out the possibility of Carroll leaving Anfield on a temporary deal, following speculation linking him with a move to AC Milan.
Rodgers insisted that he had yet to hear from the Italian club, but it is now understood that the Hammers have identified Carroll as a transfer target.
Sam Allardyce is keen to bolster his squad ahead of the new Premier League season and could now be set to hold talks with the Reds about Carroll.
The 23-year-old centre-forward has struggled to make an impact on Merseyside since securing a £35million switch from Newcastle 18 months ago.
He began to find some form towards the end of last season and his performances were rewarded with a call-up to the England squad for Euro 2012, where he scored the opening goal against Sweden with a powerful header.
Rodgers has made it clear that he regards Carroll as a fine player, but the Northern Irishman is keen to get Liverpool playing in a certain style after replacing Kenny Dalglish at the helm earlier this summer.
He has announced that he is close to adding at least one fresh face to the squad, with Roma striker Fabio Borini said to be 'seriously considering' a move to Anfield.Comment
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Liverpool would take £20m hit on Carroll
A £10m Newcastle bid to buy their former striker back cannot be ruled out
Liverpool are prepared to accept a £20m loss on Andy Carroll this summer but with no optimism at Anfield about him commanding even that kind of price, a loan deal is seen as a way of building up the value of the most expensive British player of all time.
Losing more than 50 per cent of the £35m they paid to Newcastle 18 months ago would be punishing for Liverpool. It is possible that the 23-year-old player may be left in a state of limbo under new manager Brendan Rodgers and will face another difficult season at Anfield where he has not impressed so far.
West Ham United and Fulham emerged as possible contenders for Carroll's services last night, with Sam Allardyce keen to take the player on loan with a view to a £15m deal and Fulham ready to offer Clint Dempsey plus cash, according to reports. But the player's £80,000-a-week Anfield wages will be a severe obstacle to such clubs, even though the prospect of reuniting with his friend Kevin Nolan at West Ham would appeal to Carroll.
Milan have indicated they may be willing to take Carroll on loan but a £10m Newcastle bid to take the player back cannot be ruled out – particularly if Demba Ba triggers the release clause in his own contract at St James' Park, with Liverpool having a long-standing interest in the Senegal striker. The appeal of Carroll to Newcastle will not have diminished now that their pursuit of the FC Twente striker Luuk de Jong has fizzled out, with the Dutchman having confirmed Borussia Mönchengladbach as his destination of choice.
A Dempsey-plus-cash deal may appeal because Rodgers, a deep admirer of the American, is also looking for a player to carry out the attacking role from midfield that only Steven Gerrard in the current squad is capable of. There has been no approach to Fulham for Dempsey and no movement seems imminent on that front
With Liverpool's and Fulham's valuations of him likely to differ considerably, Dempsey is a player to whom Rodgers may return later this summer if other attempts to strengthen his attack fail. Having insisted on the director of football responsibilities at Anfield, Rodgers is determined not to push Fenway Sports Group for deals which would represent poor business.
Dempsey is 29 but the fact that he would provide no sell-on value would not be a problem for Rodgers, who sees him as a player who would fit into the kind of 4-3-3 system he envisages for the new season. But Dempsey's departure would deprive Martin Jol's of a key component – which points to a likely disparity in valuations.
Rodgers, who wants to conclude two signings this week, has said he will give Carroll the chance, during Liverpool's pre-season tour, to prove his willingness to apply himself to the professional disciplines that are such an important part of his managerial philosophy.
However, Rodgers' interest in both Roma's Fabio Borini and Dempsey suggests he is looking elsewhere for strikers. There was an unmistakable impression from his public discussion of his new squad on Monday that he has already decided which players conform to his plans. Roma yesterday confirmed Liverpool's desire to buy Borini. "There is a real interest for Borini," said sporting director Walter Sabatini.
Rodgers says he has had frequent text contact with Luis Suarez since becoming manager, which he views as a good pointer towards Liverpool fending off any attempt by Juventus to lure the Uruguayan to Serie A, following his difficulties last season in the Premier League.
"We have exchanged lots of texts," Rodgers said. "He sent me a text on the first morning, wishing me luck. He has really bought in to what we are trying to do. He was really excited about how we played at Swansea last year. He is really keen and looking forward to playing in a similar sort of model."
Of an extension to Suarez's contract, which runs to 2016, Rodgers said: "There has been good dialogue. I would hope going forward that we can close that out." He suggested Martin Skrtel's questions about the club's ambitions had been answered and that Daniel Agger also wanted to stay.Comment
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A point was made on the North Korea fan site about Mourinho doing this with Balotelli, Ozil and Benzema. I remember the Balotelli and Benzema examples clearly and I remember Ozil being criticised because of his fitness and disappearing in games.
It worked for Benzema and Ozil, but not for Balotelli. Let's face it, if Carroll is motivated even more to succeed after this, and after the last few months of the season he had, he's going to be a monster of a player.Comment
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Or that might just affect the fragile confidence he seemed to be developing.
I'm presuming that if a club comes in for him, they'll be paying about £4m in a loan fee and the full wages as well?Comment
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Knowing us we would pay them 4m to take him and pay all his wages.[B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]Comment
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35 fricking million? Unbelievable, I have got over Torres leaving but still cannot get my head round paying 35 fricking million??? 35 freaking million.
BAAAAD day at the office.Comment
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A £20m hit on Carroll.
No chance. I think we'd take a £15m loss but surely £20 is too much. I mean, Parry has gone yeah?!
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Bottom line is at this point in time he is not good enough for LFC & Rodgers can see that so maybe a loan move is the best for all parties. Who knows - if he goes to a club on loan where the pressure isn't as great as at LFC, he might start to thrive & improve where he might be valuable for us in the 2013-14 season...Thanks for the memories Rafa - YNWA!Comment
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you have to feel for the player. he worked hard and ended the season really well and then carried that form into the euros.
hes expecting to come back and feature heavily only to be told that he might be going out on loan to west ham.
thats the sort of stuff that can really affect a players confidence.[B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]Comment
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If we loan him then the type of team he goes to will say alot about his long term future.
Going to someone like West Ham who are the polar opposite to the way Rodgers likes to play would indicate to me that we want ridComment
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No team that plays a short passing game with no target man are going to take Carroll so its going to have to be a team like West Ham.Originally posted by Chazza1978 View PostComment
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