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  • Shaggy
    Unidentified Rascal
    • Jul 2006
    • 135533

    #3556
    Originally posted by john316
    Anonymous for me but that was more down to how he was deployed.
    Yep he was deployed next to Gerrard in a '2-1' midfield, with Wilshere ahead. We usually play a '1-2' - Gerrard sitting with Henderson and Coutinho ahead. He used the ball well enough, played one lovely little through ball to Welbeck, but wasn't able to burst forward. Of course ****s like Lee Dixon and others slagged him off and said "he's not on the plane based on that performance". Open your eyes you ****wits.
    Thanks very much for being

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    • john316
      Dalglish
      • Apr 2007
      • 3596

      #3557
      Must have been frustrating for him. He's got no chance of going if we play him in that sort of set up as he'll look more like he did for us when he first arrived.

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      • Fredo
        Not to be taken seriously
        • Aug 2010
        • 35173

        #3558
        Originally posted by Shaggy
        Yep he was deployed next to Gerrard in a '2-1' midfield, with Wilshere ahead. We usually play a '1-2' - Gerrard sitting with Henderson and Coutinho ahead. He used the ball well enough, played one lovely little through ball to Welbeck, but wasn't able to burst forward. Of course ****s like Lee Dixon and others slagged him off and said "he's not on the plane based on that performance". Open your eyes you ****wits.


        They're absolute idiots. They even pointed out one move that Sturridge should have ran into the box but didn't (think it was an interchange of passing on the right with Glen). Then Wright and Dixon jumped onto Hoddle's bandwagon that England didn't commit enough men 'into the box'. FFS, you should criticize Bodgson chaps, as he's the devising the tactics.

        Sturridge was on more than 1 occasion in either the left back or right back positions. Hodgson's tactics are so one dimensional and devoid of any attacking intent.
        Are we winning?

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        • Fierce
          I'm only the bassist
          • Jul 2006
          • 15834

          #3559
          Why do so many want to see England fail? I get it from non English people, but why from those of you that are actually English?
          I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
          There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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          • Muddled
            Meat Shield
            • Jul 2010
            • 25665

            #3560
            My want for Hodgson to fail outweighs my love of international football.

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            • Reece
              • Jul 2006
              • 77604

              #3561
              I don't want England to FAIL, I just find it hard to get interested in them these days. I struggle to support the likes of Terry, Rooney etc when I "hate" them on a weekly basis. That said, with all the Liverpool players in the team/squad I imagine my enthusiasm will rise, especially for the WC.

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              • Shaggy
                Unidentified Rascal
                • Jul 2006
                • 135533

                #3562
                Loathe the FA, loathe Hodgson, don't like the 'Ingerlund' ****e...and until very recently loathed most of the players
                Thanks very much for being

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                • Reece
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 77604

                  #3563
                  And yeah - the first two items that Shaggy mentioned.

                  I know we've been through this before but I think the whole "Ingurlund" thing is over-played and way too much of a generalisation.

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                  • Phoenix07
                    The Normal One
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 10405

                    #3564
                    Originally posted by Fierce
                    Why do so many want to see England fail? I get it from non English people, but why from those of you that are actually English?
                    It's the overhyped, hypocritical, patriotic nonsense. I despise most of their players, and I'm not going to start liking them just because they represent a piece of land which I live on too. The FA are full of their own self importance, and the media think we're like Brazil or Spain every single year.

                    Liverpool is like the opposite of the England National Team for me anyway.

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                    • McDermotX
                      Paisley
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 35360

                      #3565
                      As an Irishman, it's not so much wanting England to fail, more like it's just the established natural order of things.
                      When England bow out it's evidence that all is right with the world.
                      "I will make the boys feel your support"
                      Jurgen Klopp June 2020

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                      • Fredo
                        Not to be taken seriously
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 35173

                        #3566
                        I guess there's a bit about the imperialistic nature of it as well.
                        Are we winning?

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                        • Fierce
                          I'm only the bassist
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 15834

                          #3567
                          Originally posted by Reece
                          I don't want England to FAIL, I just find it hard to get interested in them these days. I struggle to support the likes of Terry, Rooney etc when I "hate" them on a weekly basis. That said, with all the Liverpool players in the team/squad I imagine my enthusiasm will rise, especially for the WC.
                          Fair doos. They're only footballers though, you can't actually hate any of them
                          Except Terry

                          I just think it's strange that football fans would choose not to support their national team in the massive competitions they play in. Not 'not support' exactly, but the bit about not being interested. I don't think there's anything wrong with just watching all the games as a neutral, just think it's weird to not align yourself with your own country! And this isn't a patriotic way of thinking, I'm not remotely so; just that I'd rather follow someone than no-one, and my own country seems the most likely option


                          Originally posted by Shaggy
                          Loathe the FA, loathe Hodgson, don't like the 'Ingerlund' ****e...and until very recently loathed most of the players
                          Totally get the Ingerlund nonsense, and I hate the way English people in general are depicted overseas; but I still can't understand why any football fan would choose either another team to follow, or none at all
                          I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
                          There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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                          • Fierce
                            I'm only the bassist
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 15834

                            #3568
                            Originally posted by Nigey
                            I guess there's a bit about the imperialistic nature of it as well.
                            That's a bit strong isn't it?

                            Originally posted by McDermotX
                            As an Irishman, it's not so much wanting England to fail, more like it's just the established natural order of things.
                            When England bow out it's evidence that all is right with the world.
                            Of course! I wouldn't expect nor want anything less from you. See also, the scotch

                            Originally posted by Phoenix07
                            It's the overhyped, hypocritical, patriotic nonsense. I despise most of their players, and I'm not going to start liking them just because they represent a piece of land which I live on too. The FA are full of their own self importance, and the media think we're like Brazil or Spain every single year.

                            Liverpool is like the opposite of the England National Team for me anyway.
                            Weird. So you actively want a team other than England to win, well anything?
                            I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
                            There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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                            • EwarWoo
                              Paisley
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 15979

                              #3569
                              Used to be big into England as a youth. Had my heartbroken by them many a time

                              Grown to despise them pretty much mostly for the same as Shaggy says. Can't be fussed either way mostly, but wanting badly to see Suarez destroy Hodgson's team.

                              However no doubt the same thing as always will happen. WC will come around and I'll be weak and support them. *******s.

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                              • Shaggy
                                Unidentified Rascal
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 135533

                                #3570
                                Originally posted by Reece
                                And yeah - the first two items that Shaggy mentioned.

                                I know we've been through this before but I think the whole "Ingurlund" thing is over-played and way too much of a generalisation.
                                It is a generalisation - and yes we've been over it loads - but it's there. The general, prevailing attitude among England fans is obnoxious. For instance, when Cleverley's name was read out among the subs last night, the crowd booed. Typical England.
                                Thanks very much for being

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