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    ---------------gk---------------------

    ------------back four-----------------

    --------lucas------- gerrard ------------

    --- aspas ---- eriksen ----- coutinho ---

    -------------sturridge ------------------
    removing all the weak links makes us stronger

    too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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      IMO we can forget about Eriksen.

      The reason being that Ajax won't do business with us after the Suarez transfer IMO.

      We pissed them off big time IIRC. de Boer can talk all he want about the playing style but I doubt that is the reason.
      Stop the cyberhate


      from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

      Susan Black

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        Originally posted by Arn View Post
        IMO we can forget about Eriksen.

        The reason being that Ajax won't do business with us after the Suarez transfer IMO.

        We pissed them off big time IIRC. de Boer can talk all he want about the playing style but I doubt that is the reason.
        And you know this how?
        Was muß, das muß.

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          Originally posted by foresterbloke View Post
          And you know this how?
          Did you miss the two IMO?

          When we signed Suarez he had to beg them to accept our offer. They had walked away from the deal after we had made a few very low bids.

          Ajax reaction that time

          IIRC.

          Then you can also add the defender that we are linked with that suddenly is on the way to Norwich.

          Then you can also add de Boer himself turning us down.
          Stop the cyberhate


          from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

          Susan Black

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            Originally posted by Arn View Post
            Did you miss the two IMO?

            When we signed Suarez he had to beg them to accept our offer. They had walked away from the deal after we had made a few very low bids.

            Ajax reaction that time

            IIRC.

            Then you can also add the defender that we are linked with that suddenly is on the way to Norwich.

            Then you can also add de Boer himself turning us down.
            Or because we still have Skrtel and Coates on the books we need to wait until one moves before we go in for a new centre half... or Rogers doesn't think he'll cut it.

            And what is to say that De Boer didn't see us as a project he wanted to take on and preferred to stay at Ajax, a club who didn't need a practical top to bottom overhaul.

            IIRC Ajax sold us Suarez. If they were so upset with us then surely that wouldn't happen. And what is to stop Eriksen begging to force a move to us. Worked for Suarez.
            A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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              Originally posted by Rowan View Post
              Or because we still have Skrtel and Coates on the books we need to wait until one moves before we go in for a new centre half... or Rogers doesn't think he'll cut it.

              And what is to say that De Boer didn't see us as a project he wanted to take on and preferred to stay at Ajax, a club who didn't need a practical top to bottom overhaul.

              IIRC Ajax sold us Suarez. If they were so upset with us then surely that wouldn't happen. And what is to stop Eriksen begging to force a move to us. Worked for Suarez.
              Depends what they thought was worse, selling to us, or keeping an unhappy Suarez, noone else was interested, so they had little choice.

              Not a club that can put a plus 20mill player in the reserves to rot.

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                Money talks if we want him and he wants to come to L4 there won't be any issues.

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                  Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
                  Money talks if we want him and he wants to come to L4 there won't be any issues.
                  clubs are run by businessmen. he's got a year left on his contract and if we make an acceptable bid and he wants to come it'll be sorted. No conspiracies here IMO
                  A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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                    Originally posted by Rowan View Post
                    clubs are run by businessmen. he's got a year left on his contract and if we make an acceptable bid and he wants to come it'll be sorted. No conspiracies here IMO
                    It is imo, a bit strange for a manager to warn off a player from joining a certain club though.

                    What De Boer says doesn't make any real sense either, why would our style of play not suit Erikssen ?

                    Does sound a bit like sour grapes.

                    Not that it matters really, as De Boer wont be making the decision, and so long as the lad doesn't hang on every word De Boer says, he'll make his own choice.

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                      Originally posted by Rowan View Post
                      clubs are run by businessmen. he's got a year left on his contract and if we make an acceptable bid and he wants to come it'll be sorted. No conspiracies here IMO
                      Eriksen have said that he will sign a new deal if Ajax don't sell him this summer. He won't walk away on a free.
                      Stop the cyberhate


                      from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                      Susan Black

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                        I'm not quite sure we had to beg to Ajax to take our £22m+.

                        Likewise, if we offer £15m (ish) for a player entering his last year of his contract, I'm not sure they'd refuse to do business.

                        Just because they negotiated strongly to try and retain their best player and their manager turned down our advances, doesn't mean they 'won't do business with us'.

                        IMO opinion of course.
                        Last edited by Muddled; 13-07-13, 09:10 AM.

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                          Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                          It is imo, a bit strange for a manager to warn off a player from joining a certain club though.

                          What De Boer says doesn't make any real sense either, why would our style of play not suit Erikssen ?

                          Does sound a bit like sour grapes.

                          Not that it matters really, as De Boer wont be making the decision, and so long as the lad doesn't hang on every word De Boer says, he'll make his own choice.
                          Shakthar also warned the player off from joining us. I find it a bit worrying that two clubs in a very short time warn off a player from joining us.

                          We pissed off Celta Vigo when we made business with them.

                          I don't think we have the best reputation out there to say the least when it comes down to transfer negotiations.
                          Stop the cyberhate


                          from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                          Susan Black

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                            I think you're mistaking positioning and external image for people thinking we're a bunch of divs.

                            Of course teams are going to warn clubs off their best players - much like our statements in the media with regard to Suarez; externally we're seen to say he's going nowhere. Internally, we'll be trying to get the best deal for the club.
                            Last edited by Muddled; 13-07-13, 09:25 AM.

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                              Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                              I think you're mistaking positioning and external image for people thinking we're a bunch of divs.

                              Of course teams are going to warn clubs off their best players - much like our statements in the media with regard to Suarez; externally we're seen to say he's going nowhere. Internally, we'll be trying to get the best deal for the club.
                              Of course teams will warn off clubs their best players but it almost never happen that a club name the club in the media they way Shakhtar and now Ajax done.

                              If only one of them had done it then I wouldn't worry at all but two clubs doing it in a short time is a bit worrying.

                              If you also add the Aspas transfer when we pissed off Celta Vigo allegedly then IMO something stinks.
                              Stop the cyberhate


                              from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                              Susan Black

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                                Originally posted by SB View Post
                                Hendo will force his way in. He's good.
                                for me if gerrard plays then henderson has to play. I still think gerrard is a part of that front 4 but he plays deeper with lucas and picks his moments to go forward.

                                Henderson provides the cover and the defensive ability of another central midfield player which means that we will never be overrun in the middle of the pitch.

                                i think the front four is really suarez, sturridge, coutinho and gerrard who interchanges with henderson. the other great thing about henderson is that he knows how to break from midfield so the opposition cant ignore his threat.
                                [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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