Protest planned at Sunday's game

[Craig_H]

Nice avoidance of the question



Oh c'mon. There are loads of people who have applied and got tickets and won't be going. I know at least five. Everyone would still apply whether going or not.

Perhaps the area that we disagree on is the whole 'everyone' point.

IMO, if they'd set aside a short-ish deadline for applications, you'd see who REALLY wanted to go and who would only apply for financial gain.

If you really wanted to go, you'd make sure you got your application in. Sure, some would also apply for other reasons, but there'd be SOME who would just not bother or forget or whatever.

You disagree though, fair enough. Each to their own.

[Red Chilli]

Everyone will say they are going and apply for tickets. Who on earth is not going to apply just cos they aren't going when they can flog their ticket on?

especially if they already have 6 credits. They're not going to say, "well that's my lot, I'm not bothered with the final"

[lfc4ever]

Silly argument IMO mate.

I've never seen/found a lot of things, that doesnt negate their existence.

In the thousands who got a ballot ticket, there'll be SOME who cant/wont make the trip to athens, for varying reasons. Maybe they'd booked a holiday already, maybe they cant afford it, maybe they cant get travel or accommodation etc.

To suggest that EVERYONE who got a ticket will go, rather than pass it on to a mate, or sell at a profit, isnt accurate IMO.

I even heard that TO staff got their share, and some of them are apparently rather non plussed at the whole thing. That cant be right.

Conspiracy abounds, young angry men, all makes for great theory (and reading) - oh, imo of course.

[Craig_H]

Well that's a load of cod's wallop if you don't mind me saying. People who are guaranteed tickets are those with at least 7 CL games, now consider that we have played PSV, Galatasaray, Bordeux, Barca & Chelsea in the CL. Barca & Chelsea are the only "glory" games in that lot, 4 points max, home & away which is impossible seeing as you wont have got the away tickets, as you won't have the loyalty. So that means people who are guaranteed tickets and have been in the ballot have also been to the crappier games as well. So why the hell should people like you who haven't bothered turning up for the less glamourous CL games get tickets to the final over people who have supported the club throughtout the whole competition?

And please don't give me the tired old "I've had a season ticket since the wheel was invented, and supported the club through thick and thin" line, because the club needs to look after its young and new fans as well, otherwise they will just feck off to another club that gives a rat ar$e about them, and we miss out on the income they generate, that we desperately need for transfers and investment in the playing staff.

Perhaps you should take the WHOLE point of my post, rather than just the 'CL glory games' part of it. In effect, i think most would see ANY CL game as being more 'glamourous' than a 'boring' midweek game at home to Boro, for example.

As for your assumptions on me, no i havent only bothered turning up for the glamour games, i've been to every home game bar about 3 this season, all comps, including the trip from london to Liverpool, for the postponed Carling cup tie. I dont get that £60 petrol money back, but hey, that's life.

And no, i dont have a ST either, i get up at the crack of dawn and login to online sales, for all sale dates.

I dont see why it's unfair to suggest that the more games you go to, the more loyalty you're showing. Eg, the qualifying game against the israeli side, should DEFINITELY have counted, for starters.

[Craig_H]

Conspiracy abounds, young angry men, all makes for great theory (and reading) - oh, imo of course.

None of it can be true then, can it?

Tell you what mate, save the "I'll have a pop cos i dont like you" nonsense for another time.

If i said we played in red, you'd argue it, wouldnt you?

[Mumsafan]

Perhaps you should take the WHOLE point of my post, rather than just the 'CL glory games' part of it. In effect, i think most would see ANY CL game as being more 'glamourous' than a 'boring' midweek game at home to Boro, for example.

As for your assumptions on me, no i havent only bothered turning up for the glamour games, i've been to every home game bar about 3 this season, all comps, including the trip from london to Liverpool, for the postponed Carling cup tie. I dont get that £60 petrol money back, but hey, that's life.

And no, i dont have a ST either, i get up at the crack of dawn and login to online sales, for all sale dates.

I dont see why it's unfair to suggest that the more games you go to, the more loyalty you're showing. Eg, the qualifying game against the israeli side, should DEFINITELY have counted, for starters.

The qualifiers have never counted and they've always made this clear when the tickets for them go on sale. Anyway if they did count then, obviously, everyone with 8 credits would be guaranteed and everyone with 7 (incl the qualifier) would be in the ballot. I would have thought that was obvious.

[Red Chilli]

Perhaps you should take the WHOLE point of my post, rather than just the 'CL glory games' part of it. In effect, i think most would see ANY CL game as being more 'glamourous' than a 'boring' midweek game at home to Boro, for example.

Actually I think I deserve a couple of tickets as compensation after having to sit through the Boro AWAY game on a Saturday evening.

That was THE worst game in a long time. Neither team could string 2 passes together let alone an attack. I felt violated having been to that game

[Craig_H]

especially if they already have 6 credits. They're not going to say, "well that's my lot, I'm not bothered with the final"

Is it inconceivable that some people might've booked family holidays, or might not be able to afford the flights?

I already know of a handful of people who have passed their tickets on, because they cant actually get to athens for a number of reasons.

You're talking about it as if it's completely categorically impossible.

[Red Chilli]

Is it inconceivable that some people might've booked family holidays, or might not be able to afford the flights?

I already know of a handful of people who have passed their tickets on, because they cant actually get to athens for a number of reasons.

You're talking about it as if it's completely categorically impossible.

I just think it's highly unlikely that they won't enter the ballot anyway either to help out a mate/family member or for financial gain.

[Craig_H]

The qualifiers have never counted and they've always made this clear when the tickets for them go on sale. Anyway if they did count then, obviously, everyone with 8 credits would be guaranteed and everyone with 7 (incl the qualifier) would be in the ballot. I would have thought that was obvious.

I'm not saying they should've changed it once they'd announced it. But they should've made it count from the start of the season, and said so.

And i'm sure there's good few who might've had 7 credits, but didnt go to the qualifier.

It's a no brainer (to me, at least!) that turning out for a shyte qualifier shows a bit of loyalty, as opposed to Barca and Chelsea, who anyone would go to.

[Craig_H]

Actually I think I deserve a couple of tickets as compensation after having to sit through the Boro AWAY game on a Saturday evening.

That was THE worst game in a long time. Neither team could string 2 passes together let alone an attack. I felt violated having been to that game

I agree, it was a stinker.

[Craig_H]

I just think it's highly unlikely that they won't enter the ballot anyway either to help out a mate/family member or for financial gain.

Most would do, i agree.

But if you made it that you had to actually get off your backside to apply, rather than just be put straight into it, there'd always be SOME (maybe not many) but some, who would either forget, not be arsed or whatever. You'd reduce the numbers of those who cant/wont go, if nothing else.

But anyway, i've said what i think and not everyone agrees, no probs with that. Each to their own, no point going round in circles on it.

Agree to disagree, and all that jazz.

[Sheik Yerbouti]

It's not the club's fault they weren't given enough tickets by UEFA. 17 000 tickets is pathetic.

It's the club's fault that they went to great lengths to stress that there would be no favouritsm shown to season ticket holders over fan card holders.....but corporate season ticket holders have been guaranteed a ticket. Yeah, ****ing nice one Parry. You certainly know which side your bread's buttered.

[lfcruleus]

IMO, the 'loyalty points' should be based on ALL games recorded, not competition specific. It rips the piss that i've been to nigh on 40 games this season and miss out, while some fecker who could've been to just 6 CL home games, gets a ticket for athens.

I know there's more demand than supply and i accept totally that loads will miss out. I dont doubt that there's plenty more 'loyal' than me, who have gone to more games than me and spent more money - they'll have missed out, and it's disgusting IMO.

All loyalty points should no longer be competition specific, if you've been to 15 league games, even only 3 or 4 CL games and 3 carling cup games, you should get a ticket above someone who only bothered to turn out for the 'glory' games in the CL.

Exactly what i posted yesterday, I didnt get one, now ive got a flight and no ticket.

[RedJedi]

Yeah its UEFA's fault we got a **** allocation but that was always gona be the case. But it was Liverpool FC who chose how to allocate them. I know 40 people from around here who have season tickets with 6 credits. 2 of them got tickets. One of them have missed 5 league games and didnt goto the carling cup games. Yet he gets a ticket.

A ballot is fair if everyone in the ballot has the same amount of games. Not when some people have ****en 6 games on a £2.50 fan card.

Season ticket with all cup games first

Fan card with all cup games second

then work down from there.

Reward loyalty or you might just lose it.