Anfield calls for boy who never wanted to leave

[einar]

Your point being that because he's leaving he can act unprofessional?

That might be your moral values, but they aren't mine!

So you would have done the same. Not gone to the final because of a photo shoot.

[Pacman]

I'm sick of all this Owen stuff already.

He isn't coming back.

[Red Chilli]

Your point being that because he's leaving he can act unprofessional?

That might be your moral values, but they aren't mine!

FFS Caco

He's a footballer, hardly the most professional of professions.
Do you class late night gambling sessions the night before a world cup qualifier as acting professionally then?

I would not have any moral dilemma if someone from work asked me to go to a photoshoot on the day of LFC's champions league final. I would simply say, sorry I can't make it.

Does a football club have ownership of your free time when you are their player, even after the season has finished? Sounds very strange to me.
I'm sure Owen could have said to his agent/Real, sorry, I can't take any appointments on 25th May.

[Rich]

So you would have done the same. Not gone to the final because of a photo shoot.

If I was under-contract I'd have asked to be excused, if it was rejected I wouldn't have gone - because I would have valued my professionalism. Also, I'd have had a sick feeling at knowing I'd missed the opportunity to be playing there.

[carrsim]

i find the whole idea of him not being in istanbul a bit of a mute point to be honest

the ONLY former liverpool player in Turkey under his own steam (ie not a cushy media job) was robbie and all our ex players claim to love us

he would have been gutted to miss out. but it was fates way of paying him back for all the "i'm close to signing" he spoon fed LFC for the best part of a whole season

he should have either forced Real to play ball- he was on too much per week to have as an unhappy squad player or stayed put. Joining newcastle reeks of desperation and panic which a player of his class did not need.

Raul actually missed about 4 months of football in the 05/06 season so owen would have got a lot more games at Madrid- maybe things would have been different for him then.

i don't like him, he is a huge risk, but if it was 9m for owen or 12m for bent i know who i'd choose

it wouldn't surprise me to see him at man ure next season and then i really woudl despise him

[Red Chilli]

If I was under-contract I'd have asked to be excused, if it was rejected I wouldn't have gone - because I would have valued my professionalism. Also, I'd have had a sick feeling at knowing I'd missed the opportunity to be playing there.

Seriously, this was at the end of the season and Owen's agent was already looking for a new club for him.

How can Real dictate what Owen does in his free time at the end of the season? ****ing ridiculous suggestion.

[Rich]

FFS Caco

He's a footballer, hardly the most professional of professions.
Do you class late night gambling sessions the night before a world cup qualifier as acting professionally then?

I would not have any moral dilemma if someone from work asked me to go to a photoshoot on the day of LFC's champions league final. I would simply say, sorry I can't make it.

Does a football club have ownership of your free time when you are their player, even after the season has finished? Sounds very strange to me.
I'm sure Owen could have said to his agent/Real, sorry, I can't take any appointments on 25th May.

Real Madrid could have easily said, sorry you are under contract, you have to be at the photo shoot, no exceptions - that leaves him in the situation of effectively acting unprofessional and breaking his contract.

It's not something I would do, and probably Owen thought the same.

IF, the situation was a voluntary photoshoot, obviously I'd have told them "no I'm busy"....

[Rocket]

the ONLY former liverpool player in Turkey under his own steam (ie not a cushy media job) was robbie and all our ex players claim to love us

macca was there with him, someone had a photo with them both in the airport i recall

there was also an interview with Heggem who said he went with the Norway supporters club.

and people like Biscan are trying to get to this years final, i bet actually alot of former players went

[Red Chilli]

Real Madrid could have easily said, sorry you are under contract, you have to be at the photo shoot, no exceptions - that leaves him in the situation of effectively acting unprofessional and breaking his contract.

It's not something I would do, and probably Owen thought the same.

IF, the situation was a voluntary photoshoot, obviously I'd have told them "no I'm busy"....

So Real Madrid can organise photoshoots for Owen outside of the season in his freetime and he has no say whatsoever as to when it takes place.
So he's, almost literally, their slave?

Does that make sense to you? Would you sign a contract that allowed you to be at the beck and call of the club 365 days a year?

[einar]

Real Madrid could have easily said, sorry you are under contract, you have to be at the photo shoot, no exceptions - that leaves him in the situation of effectively acting unprofessional and breaking his contract.

It's not something I would do, and probably Owen thought the same.

IF, the situation was a voluntary photoshoot, obviously I'd have told them "no I'm busy"....

To me that shows how much he "loves" the club.

Nobody can force him to be anywhere. And I´m sure Owen has photo shoots moved all the time.

The reason he was not there is not a photo shoot, IMHO.

[Red Chilli]

To me that shows how much he "loves" the club.

Nobody can force him to be anywhere. And I´m sure Owen has photo shoots moved all the time.

The reason he was not there is not a photo shoot, IMHO.

Here, here!

[Imy]

macca was there with him, someone had a photo with them both in the airport i recall

there was also an interview with Heggem who said he went with the Norway supporters club.

and people like Biscan are trying to get to this years final, i bet actually alot of former players went

IGOR IGOR IGOR

[AFII]

So Real Madrid can organise photoshoots for Owen outside of the season in his freetime and he has no say whatsoever as to when it takes place.
So he's, almost literally, their slave?

Does that make sense to you? Would you sign a contract that allowed you to be at the beck and call of the club 365 days a year?

That's what image rights is all about.

Ronaldinho will probably join AC Milan in the summer and Milan have offered him that he will own his own image rights. That way he can decide himself which photoshoots he want to do and how much money he will get for them.

[Red Chilli]

That's what image rights is all about.

Oh don't talk bollocks AFII. Back it up if you think it's true.

Are you telling me his agent would let Real dictate to him when photoshoots take place and there are no exceptions.

[carrsim]

macca was there with him, someone had a photo with them both in the airport i recall

there was also an interview with Heggem who said he went with the Norway supporters club.

and people like Biscan are trying to get to this years final, i bet actually alot of former players went

fair enough, i still don't think its a valid stick to beat owen with.

the fact he's a lying, england centric, greedy, daily mail pin up boy is perfectly fine however