Pressures that threaten to tear LFC apart

[thesilverfoxlfc]

aye, no tevez

...but if we got all of them on that list i would be over the moon!!!!!

Tevez wouldnt bother me if we got Eto'o and Villa

[einar]

aye, no tevez

Still not to bad is it?

[Red Chilli]

Exactly, i'm right behind Rafa on this one. Any manager would be properly pissed off when they miss out on there main targets and Rafa is no different.
The club must back him.

I support the club, not Rafa Benitez, and his outbursts are pretty poor and counterproductive if you ask me.

[ningnangnong]

I'm pissed off with Rafa in all of this. What is the big hurry? We should have been negociating deals for months, it doesn't all take place on day 1 of the transfer window opening.
I'm sure Rafa is aware that the window isn't even open in Spain.
And what's all this bollocks about money? How many transfer fees are paid in full immediately?
Probably a very low percentage.

What the hell does Rafa hope to achieve with his outburst? Will it help us get players? Will it ****, all it does is make Parry's job even harder, clubs KNOW we're desperate now and will quite rightly hold us to ransome.
It also makes us look like feckin amateurs.
These outbursts only hurt the club.

I wonder if Rafa actually wants out or whether he is trying to deflect criticism over the fact that we haven't challenged for the league since he arrived and we didn't win anything last season.

He doesn't want a repeat of the last two summer windows.

He wants to sign the players as soon as he can, so he doesn't risk losing them, or clubs changing their mind, etc.

[einar]

I'm pissed off with Rafa in all of this. What is the big hurry? We should have been negociating deals for months, it doesn't all take place on day 1 of the transfer window opening.
I'm sure Rafa is aware that the window isn't even open in Spain.
And what's all this bollocks about money? How many transfer fees are paid in full immediately?
Probably a very low percentage.

What the hell does Rafa hope to achieve with his outburst? Will it help us get players? Will it ****, all it does is make Parry's job even harder, clubs KNOW we're desperate now and will quite rightly hold us to ransome.
It also makes us look like feckin amateurs.
These outbursts only hurt the club.

I wonder if Rafa actually wants out or whether he is trying to deflect criticism over the fact that we haven't challenged for the league since he arrived and we didn't win anything last season.

It seem clear that we have not been working on transfers.
It means that we need to start asap if we are gonna be happy.
And I think we can trust Rafa to have tried to get this across privately and not gotten through.

[Chris]

What is the big hurry?

****ing hell mate.

He's apparently convinced what he considers "two top class players" to join us of course he's going to want it done ASAP. You dont get brilliant players to sign for you then leave them rotting for ages, what if someone else comes in?

I dont think this is all about transfers either, its absolutely everything that has been going on for years from the academy, delays in contracts to this and by the look of it he's had enough. And if the bits we hear are true then I honestly cant blame him

[Marky]

I support the club, not Rafa Benitez, and his outbursts are pretty poor and counterproductive if you ask me.

His outburst was fully justified imho. The amount of ****ing about at boardroom level at the club would annoy the living daylights out of any manager.

[thesilverfoxlfc]

I'm pissed off with Rafa in all of this. What is the big hurry? We should have been negociating deals for months, it doesn't all take place on day 1 of the transfer window opening.
I'm sure Rafa is aware that the window isn't even open in Spain.
And what's all this bollocks about money? How many transfer fees are paid in full immediately?
Probably a very low percentage.

What the hell does Rafa hope to achieve with his outburst? Will it help us get players? Will it ****, all it does is make Parry's job even harder, clubs KNOW we're desperate now and will quite rightly hold us to ransome.
It also makes us look like feckin amateurs.
These outbursts only hurt the club.

I wonder if Rafa actually wants out or whether he is trying to deflect criticism over the fact that we haven't challenged for the league since he arrived and we didn't win anything last season.

Id have to disagree with that Chilli. These outbursts are for the better of the club, its be run ridiculously from Parrys job to the marketing Dept etc.....

Every club knows we have money and will up there prices anyways its no secret Chelski have had to deal with it as well and in fact all other clubs have had to as well for the last fews years. Many players especially english players have been priced ridiculously i.e SWP, Carrick.

It will be a hard job for Parry anyways its up to him to bring home the bacon like Kenyon and Gill have done

[thesilverfoxlfc]

His outburst was fully justified imho. The amount of ****ing about at boardroom level at the club would annoy the living daylights out of any manager.

Well said Marky

[einar]

"I start to do this and then we cannot finish. It is something to do with the structure of the club and we must change it. If we don’t, we will lose targets."

This for me is the problem in a nutshell.

[Red Chilli]

****ing hell mate.

He's apparently convinced what he considers "two top class players" to join us of course he's going to want it done ASAP. You dont get brilliant players to sign for you then leave them rotting for ages, what if someone else comes in?

I dont think this is all about transfers either, its absolutely everything that has been going on for years from the academy, delays in contracts to this and by the look of it he's had enough. And if the bits we hear are true then I honestly cant blame him

Well these 2 class players obviously don't play in La Liga then as their season is still going and the money is a side issue. Most of these transfer deals are paid for in stages and initial payments are usually paid with credit.

Why the ****ing outburst? What has he achieved with is outburst?
Has it helped him sign these 2 players?
NO, it makes the club look like idiots, it depresses us, the fans, it makes our new owners look like muppets and it probably puts any targets we had off joining such a club.
To top it off, other clubs will now hold us to ransome.
Very unprofessional behaviour from a manager of LFC.

[Red Chilli]

For Marky, Fox and Chris:

Please tell me one way in which these outbursts has done LFC some good.

[einar]

"Has it helped him sign these 2 players?" We dont know yet.

[Red Chilli]

His outburst was fully justified imho. The amount of ****ing about at boardroom level at the club would annoy the living daylights out of any manager.

****ing about?

What ****ing about? Could you be more specific Marky.

The Yanks have been here less than 6 months, they've started the new stadium build, they've addressed the flaws in that project already and have assigned new architects.

How the **** can they sign anyone before the ****ing window is open?

On top of that, we ****ing have signed someone.

[thesilverfoxlfc]

"I start to do this and then we cannot finish. It is something to do with the structure of the club and we must change it. If we don’t, we will lose targets."

This for me is the problem in a nutshell.

Exactly

How can you expect him to win everything if he can have the best players to work with. At least give Rafa a chance to get these player and not have to do last minute deals on 2nd or 3rd choice players. He can only do his best with what he's got. If you look at out team how many world class players have we got 1,2?? if you look at other top clubs they have 4/5 or 5/6 this is the difference in been a top side or a good side. The man has got us to 2 Champs league final in 3 years with a restricted team its a massive achievement and we have been really spoilt.

I know the league is a different kettle of fish and this is were he needs that extra 3 or 4 world class players so he can give Liverpool that extra bit of class to really mount a serious attack on the Prem, he can do this in Cup games cause he can save his 1 or 2 world class players for that occasion and get by with the rest of the players in the team around them.