Carra and Gerrard want Owen back but not Rafa

[Guest]

Yes, but Rafa said at the time he signed for Newcastle that he could still return in the future.

And Fredo, I respect your opinion, but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind he is a world class striker. The facts are there and speak for themselves.

If you go by what you say then Carra should be moved on because he does not offer much else other than solid no-nonense defending - which is all we need! So in the same way all we need from our striker is goals - surely we can agree on this.

Owen scored plenty of goals for England but most of them were scored in meaningless friendlies. How many times has he starred in a world cup ? He's scored a couple yes, but hardly world class mate.

Owen is a good goalscorer, did very well in the premiership and had a decent spell in Spain but I can't class him as world class. If he was world class, he would still be at Real Madrid and playing for Liverpool, not Newcastle.

[Guest]

Exactly? You have creative and hard working players elsewhere in the team, and then a top quality finisher (owen) to put the ball in the back of the net - along with contributions from the other striker and midfield.

I agree in a sense yes but Owen would be 4th or 5th choice in the list of great strikers at the moment.

I still doubt the 'world class' goalscorer label when talking about Owen and I've doubted it even when he played for us.

On the contrary a younger Robbie Fowler would have been one.

[Revo]

wrong fredo, i hate the disloyal little ****er but no doubts about it, a healthy owen is world class

[bazza76]

Mickey still has to realize that he's an average quantity.

He is a good player, but given his injury record and attitude id give him a miss, there are better all round players we could sign.
I also think someone like Tevez would do more commercially that Owen would for the club.

[Lecter]

Yes, but Rafa said at the time he signed for Newcastle that he could still return in the future.

And Fredo, I respect your opinion, but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind he is a world class striker. The facts are there and speak for themselves.

If you go by what you say then Carra should be moved on because he does not offer much else other than solid no-nonense defending - which is all we need! So in the same way all we need from our striker is goals - surely we can agree on this.

Since then though Owen has had 2 potential career threatening injuries a metatarsal and a cruciate ligament injury

We havent seen hardly anything of Owen to know whether these injuries have had any effect on him as a player and neither has Rafa

As good a player as he was £9 million is a HUGE gamble based on his injuries and no evidence that he is anything like the player post Newcastle

[Guest]

wrong fredo, i hate the disloyal little ****er but no doubts about it, a healthy owen is world class

Don't make me wrong mate, Owen is not a bad player, just not the world class one that we need.

And I don't hate him, even if he was disloyal to us, just that I feel he's never been good enough for us.

He thrived in Houllier's system ... The team was built around him, playing counter attacking football etc ... His great strength has to be his fantastic movement and great goalscoring ability but I haven't seen that consistently in World cups for England.

Anyway, that's just my opinion, I may be wrong.

[Revo]

Since then though Owen has had 2 potential career threatening injuries a metatarsal and a cruciate ligament injury

We havent seen hardly anything of Owen to know whether these injuries have had any effect on him as a player and neither has Rafa

As good a player as he was £9 million is a HUGE gamble based on his injuries and no evidence that he is anything like the player post Newcastle

more shocking than owens return lecter is the fact you made 2 spelling mistakes i think thats a first for a penmanship like yourself


edited you basterd

[Guest]

Since then though Owen has had 2 potential career threatening injuries a metatarsal and a cruciate ligament injury

We havent seen hardly anything of Owen to know whether these injuries have had any effect on him as a player and neither has Rafa

As good a player as he was £9 million is a HUGE gamble based on his injuries and no evidence that he is anything like the player post Newcastle

And add that for that matter.

The case for Owen has always been extremely thin so I don't see the point of this rehashed debate in the first place.

[Lecter]

more shocking than owens return lecter is the fact you made 2 spelling mistakes i think thats a first for a penmanship like yourself

I'm going away on a business trip / holiday tomorrow

My minds already there

[Guest]

i think thats a first for a penmanship like yourself

He doesn't use a pen mate.

[badpiggy]

Mate, Owen will not offer us anything ! Apart from goals, he brings **** **** to a team ... Even then, his goals aren't guaranteed as he may never be the same player.

I can't see Owen signing for us when Rafa is in charge. Even afterwards he would be too old and past it completely.

sorry to see the tourettes is back brother...

[Guest]

sorry to see the tourettes is back brother...

I agree that my phrasing was poor.

[Eth]

Owen ****ed the club over and Rafa - like the fans of the club won't forget that the ****er walked out leaving us without a striker before Rafa first season. Carra and Gerrard have nothing to do with it and I'd seriously doubt they'd try and press Rafa into signing him

[Red_Polo]

he brings **** **** to a team

Class Fredo, quote of the day

[Guest]

Class Fredo, quote of the day

Now don't start it all again.