Do you still have faith?

[bazza76]

I think he's ran out of ideas, personally, and whatever vision he had has been lost in amongst his obsessive tinkering.

Four seasons down the line and we're still debating over what our best system is. Not good enough.

Rafa is not tinkering with what his best system is, thats the thing.
I was thinking even the average LFC fan would know this by now. Rafa will base his system around the opposition and pick the players accordingly. If he feels they have a certain strength thats need looking after he will do it, if he feels their defence can be exploited in a certain way, he will pick his attackers to exploit this weakness. There is not favourite formation or lineup that Rafa will aoutomatically start with without thinking about the opposition. It is not his style.
I do think though, since Torres has arrived, he has made a Stevie G out of himself, his performances have almost made him updroppable. He is a match winner like Stevie.

[Jesus]

Rafa is not tinkering with what his best system is, thats the thing.
I was thinking even the average LFC fan would know this by now. Rafa will base his system around the opposition and pick the players accordingly

Yes, and that's where he's going wrong.

Amazing how many "average fans" can see this and yet Benitez blunders on regardless.

[red g]

Yes, and that's where he's going wrong.

Amazing how many "average fans" can see this and yet Benitez blunders on regardless.

yes and i am sure those 'average fans' would have got us to 2 euro finals as well :whatever:

[Jesus]

yes and i am sure those 'average fans' would have got us to 2 euro finals as well :whatever:

If in doubt bring out his European record, which has no bearing on our lack of domestic success, aided by some sort of smiley to emphasise how ****ing thick you are.

If you take off your "I was at Istanbul" glasses you'd realise that applying European Cup strategies to bread and butter leagues games, where it's all about consistency and building momentum, just does not work.

These fans who won't have a negative word said about Benitez, despite the reality starting them in the face, are starting to sound like the same ones during the last days of Houllier...and looked how that turned out...

[AFII]

If in doubt bring out his European record, which has no bearing on our lack of domestic success.

If you take off your "I was at Istanbul" glasses you'd realise that applying European Cup strategies to bread and butter leagues games, where it's all about consistency and building momentum, just does not work.

It's difficult to compete with teams that splash out over £80m net when you yourself only can splash out around £20m-£25m.

It's like trying to win the F1 world championship with Red Bull.

[Jesus]

Money, money, money.

Would spending more money stop the excessive rotation, cautious approach and over complicated tactics?

I remember someone saying "we don't need a lot of money to win the league"

I wonder who that was.

Now he can't function unless he signs someone for 20 million, who will most probably be rotated anyway.

Stop press: I could win the league by just signing 20 million quid players.

[AFII]

Money, money, money.

I remember someone saying "we don't need a lot of money to win the league"

I wonder who that was.

Now he can't function unless he signs someone for 20 million, who will most probably be rotated anyway.

Stop press: I could win the league by just signing 20 million quid players.

I doubt that he would rotate the players if they are good enough.

Gerrard, Torres, Carra, Agger, Reina and Mascherano plays more or less week in week out when fit, why?

The answer is that they are good enough to do it. The players that Rafa rotates simply isn't good enough to play every week.

Give Rafa money to sign quality players and you will see less rotation.

[Jesus]

Listen, the squad that we have now ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN THE LEAGUE, it's he who is stopping them with his methods.

Get your head out of your arse before we fall into another deep rut and need another 5 year ****ing plan to get out of it.

[Jesus]

Give Rafa money to sign quality players and you will see less rotation.

You just don't get it. It's pointless.

Rotation is what he does, his whole philosophy is built around it and he will never change.

[AFII]

Listen, the squad that we have now ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN THE LEAGUE, it's he who is stopping them with his methods.

Get your head out of your arse before we fall into another deep rut and need another 5 year ****ing plan to get out of it.

Can a Mod please ban this WUM.

Thank you

[Jesus]

Can a Mod please ban this WUM.

Thank you

Hahaha, are you for real??

Run to mummy the bad man is being negative.

No wonder we're ****ed with deluded whoppers like you following us.

Keep the faith.

YNWA.

[sonsofthedesert]

You just don't get it. It's pointless.

Rotation is what he does, his whole philosophy is built around it and he will never change.

This makes me laugh when people talk about it, he rotates just asmuch as wenger and fergie, no more but it isn't mentioned for them as they have quality on the bench and in the squad.

[bazza76]

You just don't get it. It's pointless.

Rotation is what he does, his whole philosophy is built around it and he will never change.

As I said before, he rotates so he can use the right players against the opposition he feels his selection can play best against, he does not just rotate for rotations sake unless one of our players is badly in need of a rest with a few important games coming up.

[bigfooty]

If you buy into it that Rafa rotates to get the "perfect" side to beat the opposition on the day can you explain the lack of consistency. For example, we beat Reading's second-string playing 4-4-2 earlier in the season but went 4-3-3 against their first team when they still played the same way. We tonked Arsenal last season at our place 4-5-1 but this season decided to go 4-3-3 even thought they had the same central defensive pairing.

I'd also suggest that his idea of the ideal team to beat the oppo might be a bit wrong if it can be stopped by the tactical genius of Steve Bruce twice in one season.

[alunevans]

As I said before, he rotates so he can use the right players against the opposition he feels his selection can play best against, he does not just rotate for rotations sake unless one of our players is badly in need of a rest with a few important games coming up.

personally i think he overdoes that and its a sign of his negativity. how about putting out as strong a side as he can and let them worry about us.

i also don't think he puts out the best side to beat a team necessarily. at times he'll put out a side that he thinks can win despite it not being our best side. he'll do that against some of the lesser lights in the league which, in my view, is a problem when

a) it backfires too often and
b) we're not taking points off the rest of the top 4 and so we really need to take them for sure against the others