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    Originally posted by kop-al-74 View Post
    Imo,rotation has cost us in certain games and we have dropped points.Ok we have been unlucky in others like Citeh away and Chavski,Wigan,Blackburn and Brum at home.But,he hasn't helped himself either with his team selections and formations.

    Someones already mentioned that with the players we have,the ability is there to win the premiership.But i think the players don't actually draw confidence from Rafa in the fact that it doesn't matter how well they play,they not sure when the next time they will get a start in the team.

    I have seen Crouchy for eg,play really well,then dropped the next game.Torres scores and then dropped the next game.You just don't get that with Arsenal,chavski and utd.

    Imo,play your best team thats available every bloody game.Thats how it used to be and thats how we were most successful.Rush and Dalglish was never "rested".If they pick up an injury then they can have rest.Too much science and looking ahead these days.Someone once said football is a very simple game and it really is.Only these modern coaches complicating things.

    I think Rafa is a great coach and there is nothing more i would want than for him to be the one to win us the premiership,but i am slowly losing a little confidence in him.I hate to say it.

    The formation the other night against Wigan really put me on a downer.Yea,ok on paper it looked really good but after 45 mins you can see it's really not working,you need to change.When you see players not performing (Kewell,Aurellio,Alonso)you have to make decisions and change it.He took far to long to make the changes.Once Wigan equalised the panick set in and we ended up with the team that we proberbly should of started with.

    Today against Luton there should be no resting of players.Torres and Gerrard Mascha,Carra and Reina should all be playing in a 442 formation imo.I don't think Gerrard is injured.


    i agree with a lot of your points above

    however, you have mentioned 5 draws where we have been unlucky - do you realise that had we won all these games, that we would now be 2 points behind arsenal with a game in hand???

    overall i reckon that you have stumbled onto the fact that all we need is a bit more of a cutting edge about us. I think everyone is in agreement that the team is better than last years....however, how come our home form has already no chance of equaling last seasons??? i feel that the answer is simple.....teams know that liverpool have become a much better team and therefore put 11 men behind the ball.... they are simply showing us much more respect than in recent years because before teams would fancy their chances a bit more against us..... I think this has never been more true than the manCity away game where the home side were blatently playing for a 0-0 draw - and this is a team that are great at home this year...yet they didnt fancy having a go because they knew we'd get em on the counter if they did....

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      Originally posted by desertscouser View Post
      That's true Kaip. But we're all a little hypocritical when it comes to football. Most of us for example despise Drogba butif he signed for us all those years ago instead of the Chavs and won us the league, the majority of us would over look the fact that he's a diving ******* choosing to look at him instead as being one of the best strikers in world football and a hero for bringing home no 19.


      Abit like every time stevie goes down in the box its a deffo pen
      All hat and no cattle

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        I bet youre keen you slimy self-promoting charlatan greasy scruffy ****. Heres how keen I am on you....




        **** OFF MOURINHO


        Last edited by MrMichael; 06-01-08, 12:50 PM.

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          Come on Coops, lay your cards on the table man...where do you stand?

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            Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post
            I bet youre keen you slimy self-promoting charlatan greasy scruffy ****. Heres how keen I am on you....




            **** OFF MOURINHO


            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wr1BsRFPvA

            Quite reserved this morning i see.Why don't you tell us what you really think of him!
            Last edited by MrMichael; 06-01-08, 12:50 PM.
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            'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'

            Bill Shankly.

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              Originally posted by Kopite_Colin View Post
              Here goes....I'm going to lay my cards on the table..and this isn't done lightly to spark a row.

              As I've said above, my preferred position is:

              1) DIC to buy LFC
              2) Rafa to be retained as manager
              3) Rafa to be backed financially enough to compete with the Top 3
              3) Rafa to change his mindset with regard to rotation / formation changing etc.

              However, IF Rafa goes, I would welcome Mourinho with open arms. The reasons?

              1) the man is a born winner
              2) the man has the confidence and arrogance of a born winner
              3) the man is intelligent & multilingual (communication is imporrtant)
              4) he is one of the top echelons of managers currently available who could (theoretically) manage our club for years and take us into a new era (Rafa could too)
              5) he has managed in the Premiership and knows what it takes to win it

              I honestly believe Mourinho is a modern day Shankly. What a lot of people object to on here is what I love about him. Some call it classless, I call it outspoken. For those of you who are old enough, Shankly said some outrageous things to other players, and about other teams - but it was no different to Mourinho's more recent outbursts. But we loved it - because he was ours. But the biggest reason we loved it? Was because he had one thing Mourinho doesn't appear to have..HUMILITY. He was a man of the people. But these days football is so far removed from the people that there is no way Shankly could relate to us supporters in the modern era. Let's face it - HUMILITY in general has gone from our society. In general, everywhere you look it's all about "me, me,me". Mourinho is an intelligent man. I beleieve he wanted to join us before he went to Chelsea, but money talked and we simpley couldn't compete - the Abramovich revolution was in full swing...and be honest, which manager wouldn't have jumped at that opportunity at that time? Our own local boy captain was within a hair's breadth of joining it. IF Mourinho joins LFC, he will be smart enough to know he would't be able to get away with the antics and soundbites he used at Chelsea. He will quickly realise that most Scousers are very different animals to Cockneys, and will act accordingly. But hew will also know his football history. He will know about, Shankly, Paisley, Fagan & Dalglish. He will have seen the 2005 CL celebrations in the City and been absolutely dumbfounded. He will realise just how much he will be loved and revered he will be if he brings the title back to Anfield, again and again. Yes, ideally we want somebody whose "only done it for us in England" (I don't like the thought of us being taken to the title by a Chelsea cast off, but I don't like even more the thought of us going more than 26 years without a league title). I would love to see Rafa stood in a Shankly-like pose with his arms outstetched to the Kop, but if it's Mourinho holding the trophy when he does that - I'll applaud the man. If we have a title to celebrate at the end of the last season at Anfield or after our first season in our new stadium, I'll be a happy man.

              So IF (and I mean IF) Mourinho is our next manager (and I honestly belive he will be - I've been saying it for weeks), I'll give him every chance, same as I did with Rafa.

              Long live the Rafalution and a change of cirumstances and most of all mindset.
              Fantastic post Col. You more or less put into words exactly how I feel on the subject.
              Dare we believe

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                Originally posted by Kopite_Colin View Post
                Here goes....I'm going to lay my cards on the table..and this isn't done lightly to spark a row.

                As I've said above, my preferred position is:

                1) DIC to buy LFC
                2) Rafa to be retained as manager
                3) Rafa to be backed financially enough to compete with the Top 3
                3) Rafa to change his mindset with regard to rotation / formation changing etc.

                However, IF Rafa goes, I would welcome Mourinho with open arms. The reasons?

                1) the man is a born winner
                2) the man has the confidence and arrogance of a born winner
                3) the man is intelligent & multilingual (communication is imporrtant)
                4) he is one of the top echelons of managers currently available who could (theoretically) manage our club for years and take us into a new era (Rafa could too)
                5) he has managed in the Premiership and knows what it takes to win it

                I honestly believe Mourinho is a modern day Shankly. What a lot of people object to on here is what I love about him. Some call it classless, I call it outspoken. For those of you who are old enough, Shankly said some outrageous things to other players, and about other teams - but it was no different to Mourinho's more recent outbursts. But we loved it - because he was ours. But the biggest reason we loved it? Was because he had one thing Mourinho doesn't appear to have..HUMILITY. He was a man of the people. But these days football is so far removed from the people that there is no way Shankly could relate to us supporters in the modern era. Let's face it - HUMILITY in general has gone from our society. In general, everywhere you look it's all about "me, me,me". Mourinho is an intelligent man. I beleieve he wanted to join us before he went to Chelsea, but money talked and we simpley couldn't compete - the Abramovich revolution was in full swing...and be honest, which manager wouldn't have jumped at that opportunity at that time? Our own local boy captain was within a hair's breadth of joining it. IF Mourinho joins LFC, he will be smart enough to know he would't be able to get away with the antics and soundbites he used at Chelsea. He will quickly realise that most Scousers are very different animals to Cockneys, and will act accordingly. But hew will also know his football history. He will know about, Shankly, Paisley, Fagan & Dalglish. He will have seen the 2005 CL celebrations in the City and been absolutely dumbfounded. He will realise just how much he will be loved and revered he will be if he brings the title back to Anfield, again and again. Yes, ideally we want somebody whose "only done it for us in England" (I don't like the thought of us being taken to the title by a Chelsea cast off, but I don't like even more the thought of us going more than 26 years without a league title). I would love to see Rafa stood in a Shankly-like pose with his arms outstetched to the Kop, but if it's Mourinho holding the trophy when he does that - I'll applaud the man. If we have a title to celebrate at the end of the last season at Anfield or after our first season in our new stadium, I'll be a happy man.

                So IF (and I mean IF) Mourinho is our next manager (and I honestly belive he will be - I've been saying it for weeks), I'll give him every chance, same as I did with Rafa.

                Long live the Rafalution and a change of cirumstances and most of all mindset.
                You talk sense.
                Oh I don't know.

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                  Originally posted by Kaip View Post
                  Neil, i've got a rather large stella hangover, so could you make that post abit easier to read please
                  You get no sympathy from me.

                  I was kind of agreeing with you.
                  .
                  Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                  May the Lord bless this post.

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                    Colin I agree with you to a point, if Rafa goes I will continue to support the team, end of the day I am an LFC fan through and through. My concern with Maureen is as said before the way he behaves, it isn't LFC, saying that though the way Rafa behaved in THAT press confrence wasn't LFC. If he did become manager though I would support him. I would even support Klinsman if he became manager but i hope he doesn't as I don't think he has the qualities.

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                      I think Rafa should have five years minimum.
                      .
                      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                      May the Lord bless this post.

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                        The thing I fear about the media is that when they have you in their sights and keep you there the ending is inevitable. This is just not going away and I fear Rafa will eventually walk!!
                        Dare we believe

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                          Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                          I think Rafa should have five years minimum.
                          I am starting to believe he wont get it.

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                            Originally posted by sonsofthedesert View Post
                            I am starting to believe he wont get it.
                            Me too. In fact I've been thinking it for weeks now.
                            .
                            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                            May the Lord bless this post.

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                              Originally posted by Kopite_Colin View Post
                              Here goes....I'm going to lay my cards on the table..and this isn't done lightly to spark a row.

                              As I've said above, my preferred position is:

                              1) DIC to buy LFC
                              2) Rafa to be retained as manager
                              3) Rafa to be backed financially enough to compete with the Top 3
                              3) Rafa to change his mindset with regard to rotation / formation changing etc.

                              However, IF Rafa goes, I would welcome Mourinho with open arms. The reasons?

                              1) the man is a born winner
                              2) the man has the confidence and arrogance of a born winner
                              3) the man is intelligent & multilingual (communication is imporrtant)
                              4) he is one of the top echelons of managers currently available who could (theoretically) manage our club for years and take us into a new era (Rafa could too)
                              5) he has managed in the Premiership and knows what it takes to win it
                              I honestly believe Mourinho is a modern day Shankly. What a lot of people object to on here is what I love about him. Some call it classless, I call it outspoken. For those of you who are old enough, Shankly said some outrageous things to other players, and about other teams - but it was no different to Mourinho's more recent outbursts. But we loved it - because he was ours. But the biggest reason we loved it? Was because he had one thing Mourinho doesn't appear to have..HUMILITY. He was a man of the people. But these days football is so far removed from the people that there is no way Shankly could relate to us supporters in the modern era. Let's face it - HUMILITY in general has gone from our society. In general, everywhere you look it's all about "me, me,me". Mourinho is an intelligent man. I beleieve he wanted to join us before he went to Chelsea, but money talked and we simpley couldn't compete - the Abramovich revolution was in full swing...and be honest, which manager wouldn't have jumped at that opportunity at that time? Our own local boy captain was within a hair's breadth of joining it. IF Mourinho joins LFC, he will be smart enough to know he would't be able to get away with the antics and soundbites he used at Chelsea. He will quickly realise that most Scousers are very different animals to Cockneys, and will act accordingly. But hew will also know his football history. He will know about, Shankly, Paisley, Fagan & Dalglish. He will have seen the 2005 CL celebrations in the City and been absolutely dumbfounded. He will realise just how much he will be loved and revered he will be if he brings the title back to Anfield, again and again. Yes, ideally we want somebody whose "only done it for us in England" (I don't like the thought of us being taken to the title by a Chelsea cast off, but I don't like even more the thought of us going more than 26 years without a league title). I would love to see Rafa stood in a Shankly-like pose with his arms outstetched to the Kop, but if it's Mourinho holding the trophy when he does that - I'll applaud the man. If we have a title to celebrate at the end of the last season at Anfield or after our first season in our new stadium, I'll be a happy man.

                              So IF (and I mean IF) Mourinho is our next manager (and I honestly belive he will be - I've been saying it for weeks), I'll give him every chance, same as I did with Rafa.

                              Long live the Rafalution and a change of cirumstances and most of all mindset.

                              Great post,a good read

                              However,you can't hide the fact that maureen at one stage had a bottomless pit of money to spend not only on his own team, but also buying players that he didn't need, that stopped other teams buying and improving.

                              This time last year when carvalho and terry was injured,he had no central defensive cover and was playing essien at the back.To me thats kind of short sighted.When the purse was closed,the wheels seemed to come off the wagon imo.

                              Now chavski havn't bought any players in from the time maureen was sacked but seem to of rediscoverd the kind of form that won them back to back premiership titles with,tbh,injuries to key players.

                              He sulked and spat his dummy out and was sacked for it.Remind you of anyone recently?

                              Why would the Americans want to employ him when it seems like the very reason they want to replace Rafa.
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                              'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'

                              Bill Shankly.

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                                Originally posted by kop-al-74 View Post
                                Great post,a good read

                                However,you can't hide the fact that maureen at one stage had a bottomless pit of money to spend not only on his own team, but also buying players that he didn't need, that stopped other teams buying and improving.

                                This time last year when carvalho and terry was injured,he had no central defensive cover and was playing essien at the back.To me thats kind of short sighted.When the purse was closed,the wheels seemed to come off the wagon imo.

                                Now chavski havn't bought any players in from the time maureen was sacked but seem to of rediscoverd the kind of form that won them back to back premiership titles with,tbh,injuries to key players.

                                He sulked and spat his dummy out and was sacked for it.Remind you of anyone recently?

                                Why would the Americans want to employ him when it seems like the very reason they want to replace Rafa.
                                They sold Huth to Boro in the summer and then Gallas went to Arsenal at the end of the xfer window against the wishes of Mourinho. They didn't have any time to sign a replacement.
                                Liverpool born and bred.

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