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    Originally posted by el matador View Post
    its time for rafa to leave.

    the side is **** - we play like **** and our results are ****.

    time for a change
    how elaborate
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      Originally posted by Sir Bob View Post
      You can't keep blaming a lack of cash. Man C, Villa, EFC are right on our tail and they've spent miles less than us in recent years.
      Exactly.Rolf Harris dosen't draw as much a we do.I'm starting to waver in my faith.trying to hang on but I think the players thinks he's for the chop cos they didn't look arsed till Fernanado did what he does best.And seriously,shoot ****in Riise,he's a ****.try passing instead of shooting your load at the first sight of goal you gimp

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        Originally posted by bigfooty View Post
        The fans would respect him a lot more if he didn't pretend like we were doing fine.
        speak for yourself, i respect him plenty, he's not an idiot he's not going to give the papers and the media a bone to run with and knock theconfidence by saying we're ****.

        This type of thread comes out every time rafa does a post match talk after a poor result, you'd think everyone would realise after 3 and a half seasons that it's his style and he'll stick to it, it's not hard to grasp is it really.
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          something not right at anfield i dont know what it is?

          perhaps its the lack of information as to what Gillet and Hicks are at?

          Everyone seems unsettled lately. Rafa clearly must be worried about his job.

          The players have be reading what we are and seem to be unsettled by it.

          The defence our strong point over the past few seasons seems have to fallen apart.

          The only player who seems to be playing is Torres.

          Reading things like Kllisman has been offered Rafa job aint going to help.

          i think we need Gillet and/or Hicks to come out and clear thing up.

          Back Him publicly or sack him is my message to the board.

          i hate to see Rafa go and i think if he gets the backing he will get it right and bring us No: 19.
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            Originally posted by Morph View Post
            speak for yourself, i respect him plenty, he's not an idiot he's not going to give the papers and the media a bone to run with and knock theconfidence by saying we're ****.

            This type of thread comes out every time rafa does a post match talk after a poor result, you'd think everyone would realise after 3 and a half seasons that it's his style and he'll stick to it, it's not hard to grasp is it really.

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              Originally posted by Morph View Post
              how elaborate
              we have an over reliance on 2 players to win us matches - torres and gerrard. the rest dont contribute enough - players like kewell, benayoun and pennant, kuyt, voronin arent good enough. Two players cant make a team

              our results are **** because the table doesnt lie.

              the worst of all is our style of play - rubbish route one stuff and **** defensive minded tactics that make us really crap to watch.

              it is time for a change morph.
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                Originally posted by el matador View Post
                we have an over reliance on 2 players to win us matches - torres and gerrard. the rest dont contribute enough - players like kewell, benayoun and pennant, kuyt, voronin arent good enough. Two players cant make a team

                our results are **** because the table doesnt lie.

                the worst of all is our style of play - rubbish route one stuff and **** defensive minded tactics that make us really crap to watch.

                it is time for a change morph.
                that was better, i agree with most of it although i want rafa to be able to sign a few top quality wingers and a second striker, i know are results are **** at the moment, but i believe we are 2-3 players from being able to do it (2 players if babel can be consistent in either a winger or second strikers role)
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                  Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
                  I'd love to have had £120m to spend in 4 seasons.

                  Yeh, but it's not like he's just been given £120m in one go and told "There you go Rafa, go buy who you want"

                  £120m in this day in age over that length of time is not a lot of money. I totally agree with what Marky has said. He needs a substanial increase in funds so that he can bring in the players that he needs to transform this club.

                  Ferguson and Mourinho were given substanial funds to bring in top top players, Rafa has only been given that ONCE, and that was for Torres. And before people start going on about "Wenger hasn't had a lot of money but he's been successfull" and all the rest of the bolloks, Rafa is bringing in a lot of youngsters that will be mainstay of this team for years to come.

                  It's not ****ing Rafa's fault, the core of our team is very good and there is real quality in our squad, it's those that don't have that extra bit of class that are letting him and the supporters down. I think Rafa has shown great faith in the likes of Sissoko and players like that which is what a manager should do. But even he's started to realise now that they're not the right players for LFC and they will soon be shipped out.

                  I admit he hasn't always bought quality footballers but he's had to look around for the best he can get with the funds he's had, he's had no choice.

                  Just don't blame it on Rafa cos it's not his fault.
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                    Originally posted by Slinky Skills View Post
                    Yeh, but it's not like he's just been given £120m in one go and told "There you go Rafa, go buy who you want"

                    £120m in this day in age over that length of time is not a lot of money. I totally agree with what Marky has said. He needs a substanial increase in funds so that he can bring in the players that he needs to transform this club.
                    You can agree with me, or you can be wrong.

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                      Originally posted by Slinky Skills View Post
                      Yeh, but it's not like he's just been given £120m in one go and told "There you go Rafa, go buy who you want"

                      £120m in this day in age over that length of time is not a lot of money. I totally agree with what Marky has said. He needs a substanial increase in funds so that he can bring in the players that he needs to transform this club.

                      Ferguson and Mourinho were given substanial funds to bring in top top players, Rafa has only been given that ONCE, and that was for Torres. And before people start going on about "Wenger hasn't had a lot of money but he's been successfull" and all the rest of the bolloks, Rafa is bringing in a lot of youngsters that will be mainstay of this team for years to come.

                      It's not ****ing Rafa's fault, the core of our team is very good and there is real quality in our squad, it's those that don't have that extra bit of class that are letting him and the supporters down. I think Rafa has shown great faith in the likes of Sissoko and players like that which is what a manager should do. But even he's started to realise now that they're not the right players for LFC and they will soon be shipped out.

                      I admit he hasn't always bought quality footballers but he's had to look around for the best he can get with the funds he's had, he's had no choice.

                      Just don't blame it on Rafa cos it's not his fault.

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                        Won't be long and Rafa will be gone and the owners will have their "Yes man", ready to lead us to fourth place every season, with the odd lucky third place, and if we're really lucky a couple of Carling Cup finals in his first five years.

                        As long as we finish top four, and get into the group stages of the Champs League, they'll be happy enough.

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                          Form slipped when Agger got injured, once the defence is back to the solid wall it was with him we'll be more attack minded from the off,Sami is now a weakness teams target for pace, Keep Finnan fit too, Skirtle will get his chance to impress soon. We need some quality additions though aswell, big money signings i mean, add them to what we have & we're a match for the 3.

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                            Originally posted by Morph View Post
                            that was better, i agree with most of it although i want rafa to be able to sign a few top quality wingers and a second striker, i know are results are **** at the moment, but i believe we are 2-3 players from being able to do it (2 players if babel can be consistent in either a winger or second strikers role)
                            i dont think that rafa knows how to use genuinely talented and creative players - he struggled for a long time with Gerrard because stevie doesnt fit the mould of his typical central midfield player because he is not defensive and he likes to get on the ball, go forward and create.

                            Babel is another fantastic talent and im not sure rafa knows what to do with him - its blatantly obvious that he isnt a winger and looks much better further up.

                            He's done well with torres but i just cant forgive him for signing kuyt - thats the true reason why i think benitez has to go - he doesnt make great signings and he doesnt know what to do with the great players that he has.
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                              Originally posted by el matador View Post
                              i dont think that rafa knows how to use genuinely talented and creative players - he struggled for a long time with Gerrard because stevie doesnt fit the mould of his typical central midfield player because he is not defensive and he likes to get on the ball, go forward and create.

                              Babel is another fantastic talent and im not sure rafa knows what to do with him - its blatantly obvious that he isnt a winger and looks much better further up.

                              He's done well with torres but i just cant forgive him for signing kuyt - thats the true reason why i think benitez has to go - he doesnt make great signings and he doesnt know what to do with the great players that he has.
                              i think that last part is unfair, many hailed him as a tactical genius in 04/05 for getting the best out of the player he had. I think he knows what to do with the players they just aren't performing. You know Kuyt mis a better player than he's shown this season, and he's making a **** out of rafa for buying him with his **** performances this season, same for sissoko.
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                                Originally posted by Morph View Post
                                i think that last part is unfair, many hailed him as a tactical genius in 04/05 for getting the best out of the player he had. I think he knows what to do with the players they just aren't performing. You know Kuyt mis a better player than he's shown this season, and he's making a **** out of rafa for buying him with his **** performances this season, same for sissoko.
                                Houllier bought some rubbish players but so has benitez. Some of his players just werent liverpool standard (although im not sure what that is any more).

                                its just not happening for benitez and it would take a monumental turn around in our form for him to be retained next season.

                                Just out of interest morph would you want to keep benitez or would you like to see someone else give the reins. I have my preference but mentioning his name is akin to heresy in these parts.
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