The draw was a FIX

[Matt]

FLMAO

If you can locate Shergar, Lord Lucan AND AnfieldForever while you're at it then I will be impressed

One step at a time

I've actually done the Dallas JFK thing. Got talking to some bloke who was blatantly there to prey on tourists and he gave a very elaborate explanation of what happened and showed us bullet marks in the pavement that corresponded to the 'X marks the spot' marks that have been painted on the road.

Apparantly there were 6 shooters and the one who got him was hiding down a drain.

[Neil Young]

Apology accepted

Today I'm going to find out who really shot JFK.

[MrMichael]

Neil, you've been no fun in this thread. Your refusal to play the conspiracy game is unimpressive and I suggest you leave.

Apology accepted

Today I'm going to find out who really shot JFK.

FLMAO

If you can locate Shergar, Lord Lucan AND AnfieldForever while you're at it then I will be impressed

[Matt]

Apology accepted

Today I'm going to find out who really shot JFK.

[Neil Young]

Neil, you've been no fun in this thread. Your refusal to play the conspiracy game is unimpressive and I suggest you leave.

OK, sorry. *hangs head*

[Matt]

Neil, you've been no fun in this thread. Your refusal to play the conspiracy game is unimpressive and I suggest you leave.

[Neil Young]

Best explanation so far

Well actually the best explanation so far is that it wasn't fixed.

Most people, and I include myself in that, really don't understand statistics. For example, a lot of people are frightened of flying but they don't think twice about getting into a car in which they have a far greater risk of dying.

Oh b*ll*cks, I've got caught up in this crap again.

[dawmdt]

If you had 2 cold balls, 2 hot balls, 2 spiky balls and 2 bouncy balls .

... then it's time to see a doctor

[Matt]

Uefa should do the decent thing and re-draw the quarters until we get to the following combination:

Schalke - Liverpool
Arsenal - Barcelona
Man u - Chelsea
Fenerbache - Roma

It might take a while and the estimates on this draw sequence probability vary from 28-1 to 40320-1. Admit it was fixed Platini and right your wrong.

TBH - if you want to win this you have to play the best teams at some stage. The second leg v arsenal is at home and that gives us a slight advantage. Whichever way it goes - it will be very very tight.

Hopefully we can avoid our usual capitulation at the Emirates but 2nd leg at Anfield gives us a great chance.

[el matador]

Uefa should do the decent thing and re-draw the quarters until we get to the following combination:

Schalke - Liverpool
Arsenal - Barcelona
Man u - Chelsea
Fenerbache - Roma

It might take a while and the estimates on this draw sequence probability vary from 28-1 to 40320-1. Admit it was fixed Platini and right your wrong.

TBH - if you want to win this you have to play the best teams at some stage. The second leg v arsenal is at home and that gives us a slight advantage. Whichever way it goes - it will be very very tight.

[kopdan]

I'm sure AFII will come back with a magnet explanation on that one Stig

[Matt]

"It's a draw that's open to the public and club representatives. The balls are all of the same colour and there are no distinctive marks on them," added the spokesman.


"I was just 10 metres away and what was drawn was also read by Mr Taylor. It (a fix) is impossible."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...303099,00.html

Thats not true though is it. The balls are unnecessarily big things and need to be unscrewed to remove the slip of paper. They also have Champions League markings all over them so it'd be very easy to conceal something.

[TheStig]

of course its rigged.

the fact that they actually handle the balls is dubious.

Why do they not do it like the lotto numbers? all the balls into a large container, air pumped inside to make the balls move around, one ball is dropped down.

Eradicates the chance of "human error".

Thats a very good point actually.

[JohnDoe]

Apparently, they apply mobile phone technology to the balls.

Inside each one is a small vibrator.

Someone out of sight, phones each ball when UEFA want it to be identified.

This produces a small vibration of the ball.

The man choosing the balls, moves them round the bowl to disguise the noise and sound of the vibration.

Voila.

Best explanation so far

[el matador]

Uefa reject draw rumours
Rigging rumours put to bed

Uefa have dismissed rumours the Champions League draw might have been fixed, branding them 'ridiculous' and 'impossible'.



A post left on a newspaper's internet forum at 10.28am on Friday morning - 90 minutes before the draw took place in Nyon - correctly predicted the entire quarter-final draw.


The poster claimed bookmakers were no longer willing to accept bets on the draw, although it is understood that most were not running books on it anyway.


When all four ties predicted in the post came to fruition it caused fevered internet speculation that some sort of manipulation might have taken place.


But a Uefa spokesman said: "It is just a lucky guess.


"I have been in touch with people internally and they are quite surprised. They find it a little ridiculous actually.


"The results of the draw and the practice draw were completely different, and I think it was just pure luck that this guy could get them all right.


"That's the only explanation we can give."


Former Russia goalkeeper Rinat Dasaev pulled the balls out of the hat during the draw, which was televised live, with Uefa general secretary David Taylor watching on.


Uefa are confident that the entire procedure was impossible to rig.


"It's a draw that's open to the public and club representatives. The balls are all of the same colour and there are no distinctive marks on them," added the spokesman.


"I was just 10 metres away and what was drawn was also read by Mr Taylor. It (a fix) is impossible."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11945_3303099,00.html